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Cell phone use banned in the AMR
I noticed this a few weeks ago when I climbed Gothics and just thought I'd share, since I'd not heard of it before. Apparently the use of cell phones in all public areas of the AMR is banned. There is a 50$ fine if you are caught. The sign I read states that this applies to all members and guests of the AMR, so I assume it applies to hikers as well. According to the sign I read at the entrance booth/register, this rule has been in place since 2007 (but this is the first I'd ever heard of it).
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Seems to me they could kick you out if they want if it was on their land but if you are saying public areas as in state land I don't think they would have a case to collect a fee.I wouldn't use the phone in there unless it was an emergency but they would have a hard time collecting a fee or fine from me.If it is true it is their law,not THE law.
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I'm surprised to hear you can get a cell signal there. I also don't see how they can enforce that. Didn't the state buy an easement from them to allow public access to the summits that the state also bought from them? What next? Will they say we're not allowed to speak to our companions as we walk the Lake Road?
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There are other places where there are rules like this...I think I read something about a rule like this in Baxter up in Maine. It's usually based on moronic non-reasoning. Cell phones are banned, but vuvuzelas are OK. Duh...
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And the Ausable Club would expect to collect a fine from someone from the general public hiking on their land? The only way I can see this happening is if the DEC were to collect the fine and then hand it over to the club. Maybe I'm missing something but I just don't see how a fine can be collected without someone from law enforcement charging someone.I can see how they could ban you from their land but I can't see how they could collect money from you.
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As a practical matter, this rule seems more directed to members and guests of the club. In that case it becomes eminently more enforceable.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Keene, NY
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The rule has been around for awhile, it is intended for members and guests of the club - not necessarily hikers walking through the area. Although I suspect they wouldn't think twice about asking a loud cell phone using hiker to wrap it up if you are yapping away while walking near the Inn, etc.
The Keene Valley Verizon tower is now active (photos here), but even before that you could pick up a weak signal in a few locations on their property. So, of course, what would happen is you would have guests huddled around those spots gabbing away, taking business calls, etc. I assume they decided that just wasn't the atmosphere they wanted. |
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I decided that the best way to figure out if this rule applies to hikers as well as AMR club members was to ask the Ausable Club itself, so I emailed the address listed on the club web page. Here is the response I got:
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My guess is that it is a CLUB rule, for members and guests. In that case it would be enforceable because members usually agree to obey any rules the club might set.
What's the big deal? It's a private club and I happen to agree with them about the cell phone ban.
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I'm not a cell phone user and don't really understand the addiction to them, but I'm curious why a cell phone conversation is any different than a conversation between two people in this instance. Both could be loud and annoying. Both could be distracting. Is it the technology involved that makes cell phones more offensive?
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the menu of choices abounds:
A. governmental tracking of citizens B. mind control C. death ray "array" D. communication array for ALF's E. ??? ![]()
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Maybe off topic but here goes
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I also agree with someone above. Hard to believe you can even get an acceptable signal on the AMR property. Don |
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Baxter is interesting- it's not part of the Maine State Park system, nor is it managed by BPL. It's instead managed separately from other Maine state lands. |
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somebody should stop this......some people just have to much time on their hands
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