Adirondack Forum  
Rules Membership Donations and Online Store Adkhighpeaks Foundation ADKhighpeaks Forums ADKhighpeaks Wiki Disclaimer

Go Back   Adirondack Forum > The Adirondack Forum > General Adirondack Discussion
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-06-2011, 01:54 PM   #1
poconoron
Backcountry Wanderer
 
poconoron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pocono Mts, Pa. and Adirondacks
Posts: 846
Best deer fly control I have found

With the deer flies now out and biting, I would suggest the following deerfly control:

http://www.dirtworks.net/Deerfly-Patches.html

I have been using this for several seasons now, and won't go without it when deerflies are out and about. Requires that you wear a hat of some sort.
Highly recommended!
__________________
Ahh............Wilderness.......
poconoron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 02:33 PM   #2
redhawk
Senior Resident Curmudgeon
 
redhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: In My Memories
Posts: 10,929
Quote:
Originally Posted by poconoron View Post
With the deer flies now out and biting, I would suggest the following deerfly control:

http://www.dirtworks.net/Deerfly-Patches.html

I have been using this for several seasons now, and won't go without it when deerflies are out and about. Requires that you wear a hat of some sort.
Highly recommended!
I've used double sided tape for the longest time. It's a lot cheaper.
__________________
"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson
redhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2011, 10:05 PM   #3
stripperguy
Hangin' by a thread
 
stripperguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Schenectady, NY
Posts: 3,894
Last year was a bad year for deer flies. While paddling with my darling bride, I was eaten alive, even through my shirt, with a swarm around me that looked like the Rings of Saturn! Meanwhile, my sweetie had no bites and no Rings of Saturn!
In desperation, I said "toss me that Hawaiian Tropic Sun Block, darling". (I rarely get any sunburns, and hardly ever use sunscreen of any sort)
I no sooner opened the bottle than the celestial apparitions were gone, and I did not get another bite, and hardly another visit from my former winged friends.
I used the stuff on many occasions after that, and believe me it works wonders.
As a side note, the smell reminds me of the beach and all those wonderful views.
stripperguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 11:44 AM   #4
poconoron
Backcountry Wanderer
 
poconoron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pocono Mts, Pa. and Adirondacks
Posts: 846
For me the tape never worked as well - wasn't as easy to use, didn't stay on as well, etc. I find that it's worth the $12.99 for 24 deer fly strips which pretty much last through deer fly season. Each strip can last several days, depending on deerfly carcass volume.

I'm definitely going to give that Hawaiian Tropic Sun Block a try. Thanks, sguy.
__________________
Ahh............Wilderness.......
poconoron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 03:24 PM   #5
1894
Member
 
1894's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,341
All 3 sound interesting
Is there a color to the tape that attracts them or a smell , or just when they try to bounce they don't ??
And any particular flavor of Hawiian tropic ??

The last couple years I've become hyper sensitive to deer flies . They seem to like deet as much as eating me . The deet may kill them , but doesn't slow them down ,1 bite on the back of my hand and I won't see my knuckles or wrist for several days
__________________
Phil



“The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.” —Herbert Spencer

1894 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 04:24 PM   #6
TCD
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,998
If you are using a repellent, you might try this stuff:

http://www.sawyerproducts.com/SP464n.htm

The added ingredients do seem to repel deerflies and other biting flies. DEET works best with mosquitoes, and to some extent with black flies, but not really at all with larger flies.
TCD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 05:07 PM   #7
fisher39
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by stripperguy View Post
Last year was a bad year for deer flies. While paddling with my darling bride, I was eaten alive, even through my shirt, with a swarm around me that looked like the Rings of Saturn! Meanwhile, my sweetie had no bites and no Rings of Saturn!
In desperation, I said "toss me that Hawaiian Tropic Sun Block, darling". (I rarely get any sunburns, and hardly ever use sunscreen of any sort)
I no sooner opened the bottle than the celestial apparitions were gone, and I did not get another bite, and hardly another visit from my former winged friends.
I used the stuff on many occasions after that, and believe me it works wonders.
As a side note, the smell reminds me of the beach and all those wonderful views.
I'll have to give it a shot! Although I think getting those little suckers stuck to a glue patch would be more satisfying.
fisher39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 05:12 PM   #8
mikesill
nywilds
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Marcellus, NY
Posts: 71
I put a little of that all purpose do-everything "duct tape" on the top of my hat.

Save yourself from getting cancer and don't use DEET for the deerflies. Deerflies are not attracted to CO2 like blackflies + skeeters. Deet confuses the biting insects by blocking your CO2 that is emitted from your body which is not the MO of a deerfly. Deerflies will attack looking for movement / shadows as your walking. The only repellent that seems to work the best is, well ... squishing them until they make that satisfyingly pop sound.

Dark colors like black, red + the worst of them all blue will bring them in with remarkable accuracy.
mikesill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 05:17 PM   #9
poconoron
Backcountry Wanderer
 
poconoron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pocono Mts, Pa. and Adirondacks
Posts: 846
With the deerfly strips, I don't believe it's the smell or the color, but rather the tendency for them to want to land near the top but just a little lower toward the back of the head. The instructions are very specific in putting the strips in that area only. I believe that some kind of study revealed this deerfly habit.

BTW, I just came in from mowing about 2 acres of my property here in the southern ADKs on a riding mower.......... and the harvest on a newly applied strip was 14 deerflies and about 8 blackflies in 1 hour's time. I would notice the deerflies circling me a number of times......then poof - they were gone.
I was also wearing a headnet.
__________________
Ahh............Wilderness.......
poconoron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 05:41 PM   #10
mikesill
nywilds
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Marcellus, NY
Posts: 71
Here's a few innovations for deerflies...

http://nfrec.ifas.ufl.edu/MizellRF/deerfly_trap.htm

Not sure if it's worthwhile to have a blue sticky lampshade on top of my backpack!
mikesill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 06:15 PM   #11
Dick
somewhere out there...
 
Dick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: avatar: Patagonia
Posts: 2,821
Good concise article on deer and horse flies:

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2115.html
Dick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 08:34 PM   #12
stripperguy
Hangin' by a thread
 
stripperguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Schenectady, NY
Posts: 3,894
Dick,
thanks for the link, but that study still says there is little effective long term safe protection from those deer fly bites.
While my own experiences would necessarily be classified as anecdotal, I'm telling all of you that the Hawaiian Tropic stuff worked wonders.
As soon (and I do mean as soon) as I just opened the container, the circling horde disappeared!!
Of course, I don't know if all of those SPF products would work as well, but when the flies are really bad, I'm very willing to experiment.
I need to dig up that bottle of liquid treasure to find the exact version and buy some more...
stripperguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:07 PM   #13
Dick
somewhere out there...
 
Dick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: avatar: Patagonia
Posts: 2,821
Stripperguy, I posted the link for general information on the deerfly and horsefly, not for any particular remedy. But given your testimonial, I may just try some of that Hawaiian Tropic stuff! Yes, please post the exact version if you can find it. Of course, I'd want to know what's in it. Especially given this issue (I don't know the science behind it):

http://www.skinbiology.com/toxicsunscreens.html

Another caution I've read about is to be leery of the "two-in-one" products that are both sunscreen and DEET. The warning is due to the fact that one needs to apply sunscreen more often than DEET, and you might get too much of the repellent (especially children). I've also read that the repellent may lower the effectiveness of the sunscreen. I have no science to back it up, but it might be worth looking into.

Dick
Dick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:26 PM   #14
stripperguy
Hangin' by a thread
 
stripperguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Schenectady, NY
Posts: 3,894
Dick,

I'll dig around to find the exact bottle that we used...it was a straight SPF sunblock, no DEET or other insect repellant ingredients or claims.

OK, I just off my lazy butt and found the stuff in one of my daypacks...
Hawaiian Troic Sheer Touch lotion sunscreen spf 50

Acive ingredients are but 3-
Avobenzone 3%
Octocrylene 6%
Oxybenzone 4%

BTW, these ingredients mean nothing to me...I'm strictly a static and dynamic stress kind of guy.

I also gave that latest link a quick read...too late for my sexual development being affected...
stripperguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 10:21 PM   #15
Dick
somewhere out there...
 
Dick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: avatar: Patagonia
Posts: 2,821
Sorry, this is getting a little off-topic, but it appears there may be issues with these chemicals:
http://truthinaging.com/ingredients/avobenzone
http://www.sideeffects.com/avobenzone.html
http://reverseskinaging.com/toxicsunscreens2.html
http://www.sunshop.safeliving.info/

OK, back to deerfly remedies...

Dick
Dick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 07:00 AM   #16
stripperguy
Hangin' by a thread
 
stripperguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Schenectady, NY
Posts: 3,894
Dick,

Again, thanks for those links...It seems to me that the sunscreen manufacturers should isolate the effective ingredient in their compounds and actively market them as deer fly repallants!
stripperguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 08:11 AM   #17
lumberzac
Beware of the Lumberzac
 
lumberzac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: country of the lakes and the crooked stream
Posts: 1,730
The suggestions in this thread sound a lot better than the method I've been using. The 12 gauge full of #8 birdshot gets heavy after a while.
__________________
A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.

http://community.webshots.com/user/lumberzac
lumberzac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 08:18 AM   #18
fisher39
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,006
Quote:
Originally Posted by stripperguy View Post
Dick,

Again, thanks for those links...It seems to me that the sunscreen manufacturers should isolate the effective ingredient in their compounds and actively market them as deer fly repallants!
To heck with the sunscreen manufacturers, let's do it ourselves! Stripperguy's Deer Fly Repellant could be someone's ticket to early retirement, even after donating 10% to the ADKHighpeaks Foundation, of course!
fisher39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 07:02 PM   #19
bluequill
Member
 
bluequill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Keene
Posts: 849
I walked Coney Mtn today and the deerflies were out in force, waiting in the fringes to swoop out and attack, However, to their dismay, I was using Old Time Woodsman fly dope applied just to my hat. They would make a couple of recon flights around my head and disappear. Same with the skeeters and BF's. Not one bite for the entire hike.

This fly dope has never let me down. The only downside is that it smells like your in a refinery.
bluequill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 07:58 PM   #20
pondhopper
Have creel; will travel
 
pondhopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 749
Was somewhere east a bit of Tioga Pt. on Raquette L. today & there where just a few bugs of all types, go figure.

On a side note: high winds knocked numerous trees down on the Big Moose Rd., between Big Moose & Stillwater, but had enough room to drive around. However, the Stillwater Rd. between there & Number 4 had several large trees resting on the power lines & had just enough clearance to squeak through w/a canoe on the car. One of the larger trees pushing the lines lower was near the McCarty Rd. turn-off & the back of my canoe just brushed the tree as I passed underneath. Hopefully, the road will be passable for all traffic by the weekend (pretty sure it will be).

Edited to add: Oops, meant to post this in the black fly report thread. Oh well.
__________________
--"Pete You***?!, Pete You***'s grandson?!...That name is nearly sacred & uttered with awe in THIS house!" : The late Dr. Reed's wife, upon entering her house & being introduced- so to converse with her husband about the old days, a little before he died. The kind of greeting you'll never forget & reinforces your image of the hero you never met. --

Last edited by pondhopper; 06-08-2011 at 08:36 PM.. Reason: oops
pondhopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

DISCLAIMER: Use of these forums, and information found herein, is at your own risk. Use of this site by members and non-members alike is only granted by the adkhighpeak.com administration provided the terms and conditions found in the FULL DISCLAIMER have been read. Continued use of this site implies that you have read, understood and agree to the terms and conditions of this site. Any questions can be directed to the Administrator of this site.