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View Poll Results: How do You Stay in Shape?
I hike all the time. 59 27.19%
Cardio and weight training. 99 45.62%
Cardio only. 42 19.35%
Weight training only. 5 2.30%
I eat chips, drink beer and laugh at Homer Simpson. 51 23.50%
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:27 PM   #61
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thanks mavs!!

i would guess that's the idea behind the way the trainer at my gym set up my weight routine ... four sets of reps, the first three increasing and the last a decrease to the second rep. then you can slowly increase the weights for each rep over time ...
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Old 12-08-2004, 09:35 PM   #62
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Snooze warning in effect!

Actually Tim, I would consider the muscle glycogen sparing effect (if it exists as a benefit to an increased aerobic T-hold) to be the most important benefit of all for hikers. Especially on multi-day trips. I'm going to do a few faster klicks twice a week just to be sure.
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Old 12-08-2004, 10:16 PM   #63
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Actually Tim, I would consider the muscle glycogen sparing effect (if it exists as a benefit to an increased aerobic T-hold) to be the most important benefit of all for hikers. Especially on multi-day trips. I'm going to do a few faster klicks twice a week just to be sure.
End snooze warning

It would be an important benefit, especially on tough steep climbs, when muscle stamina is more important than consistant aerobic endurance.
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Old 12-08-2004, 10:47 PM   #64
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here's a link ... http://www.poweringmuscles.com/artic...?article_id=96

answers the benefits question but not the other one.
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here's a link ... http://www.poweringmuscles.com/artic...?article_id=96

answers the benefits question but not the other one.
Thanks, kwc...very informative article! However, although the article praises sports drinks, I'd still like to know:

1. How much of it should one drink? Won't ingesting sodium increase thirst? If so, I know that large amounts sodium is not good for other reasons, but I don't know how much is too much. And if I'm only sipping it occasionally, will it have the same effect (good or bad) as drinking it in larger quantities?

2. Why do less than half of the drinks contain magnesium, when depletion of mag. is also a known cause of cramps (in addition to sodium and potassium depletion)?
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:08 PM   #65
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2. Why do less than half of the drinks contain magnesium, when depletion of mag. is also a known cause of cramps (in addition to sodium and potassium depletion)?
Apparently, in France. Purchase of Magnesium supplements is re-embursed(sp?) by their governement. Reseach has shown them it is a very useful mineral to one's health. They probably figure that if everybody gets their magn intake, they'll have a better health, thus lessening the costs towards health for the country.
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Old 12-08-2004, 11:35 PM   #66
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not meaning to press the snooze button, but.......

it is the anaerobic threshold that needs to be elevated, which requires us to train more in that 70% of max heart rate area (go out and get a basic HR monitor if you really wanna get crazy). This will allow us to perform at that fine line between our ability to eliminate lactic acid vs. allowing lactic acid to accumulate.

The Kenyan marathoners have perfected this (with the aid of American physiologists, go figure....)

BTW,, thanks, judgeh for remembering that I called this group "nutty" once upon a time (I think I have much more unprintable colorful verbs now...)
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:59 AM   #67
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not meaning to press the snooze button, but.......

it is the anaerobic threshold that needs to be elevated, which requires us to train more in that 70% of max heart rate area (go out and get a basic HR monitor if you really wanna get crazy). This will allow us to perform at that fine line between our ability to eliminate lactic acid vs. allowing lactic acid to accumulate.

The Kenyan marathoners have perfected this (with the aid of American physiologists, go figure....)

BTW,, thanks, judgeh for remembering that I called this group "nutty" once upon a time (I think I have much more unprintable colorful verbs now...)
I assumed your intial impression had been improved upon.

Thanks for the anaerobic nap.

What I really would like to know is how to get rid of the aches and pains which increase as the years pass. It would be nice to start day two of a hike feeling as strong as the day before!
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:11 AM   #68
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Judgeh, Even if I knew, I wouldn't tell you (but I might sell it to you for $19.99 )

Neil, it's all interelated, Glycogen sparing is the process and benifits are the physical response.

I suggest the following -ARTICLE-; if (and only if)
  1. Your interested in the answer
  2. You have insomnia

God this is boring stuff, Neil can't you start an "Adirondack" based post about the genetic drift effect on the Pine Martin population in the Western High peaks or something TRUELY stimulating like that
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:27 AM   #69
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What I really would like to know is how to get rid of the aches and pains which increase as the years pass. It would be nice to start day two of a hike feeling as strong as the day before!
For all the research, jargon and gobbldey-gook the specialists will basically tell you to do sports specific training. What does that mean? To be in shape for hiking, go hiking. Duh.

So, who wants to talk about population genetics?
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:40 AM   #70
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I assumed your intial impression had been improved upon.

Thanks for the anaerobic nap.

What I really would like to know is how to get rid of the aches and pains which increase as the years pass. It would be nice to start day two of a hike feeling as strong as the day before!
I can sum up that answer in 1 word: drugs!!!
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:45 AM   #71
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Anybody here consider "bulking up" for winter hiking? I always think I might want some extra fat to burn if I spend an unexpected night out but can't seem to put it on while staying in shape for winter hiking. And once winter hikes start I feel like I lose the reserves that I do have.
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Old 12-09-2004, 09:57 AM   #72
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For hints on bulking up read the earlier posts about hoisting beer and doritos.
I'd rather be thin and light for ease of movement, bending, getting into and out of clothing/gear etc. etc.
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Old 12-09-2004, 12:01 PM   #73
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keeping in shape

I ref hockey games, do situps and pushups..... and then grab the oreos! How do I get rid of these "UNDEFINED" things?
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Old 12-09-2004, 12:04 PM   #74
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I got rid of them, but I don't know how they got there in the first place.
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Old 12-09-2004, 12:06 PM   #75
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I just tried to get rid of them ; hope it worked!
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Old 12-09-2004, 12:14 PM   #76
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http://www.adkforum.com/usercp.php? (usercp on the menu at the top left)

You'll see a list of things you can configure on the left hand side. The text that appears below your posts is referred to as the "signature", and somehow you had a signature you didn't want setup.
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I ref hockey games, do situps and pushups..... and then grab the oreos! How do I get rid of these "UNDEFINED" things?
So can skate. Hope you'll be coming to the Skating Party/hockey game.
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Old 12-09-2004, 05:17 PM   #78
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So can skate. Hope you'll be coming to the Skating Party/hockey game.
Excuse Me?

You think someone named "Hollywood" is a hockey player?
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Old 12-09-2004, 05:24 PM   #79
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I ref hockey games, do situps and pushups..... and then grab the oreos! How do I get rid of these "UNDEFINED" things?
What games do you ref?? Is it possible I have yelled profanities at you before?
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Old 12-09-2004, 05:58 PM   #80
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My unscientific routine.

Weight train 4 days a week with aerobics on 3 of those days. I take about 50g of protein supplements per day because my body is stubborn about gaining weight. Stairmaster on Sunday for 30 minutes, Run or elliptical or walk on 15% grade Tuesday for 30 minutes, Run on Friday for 30 minutes. It seems to work I took my my mile time from over 10 minutes to almost 8 minutes in about 2 years. I am 37. I hope to run a 5k in under 25 minutes next year. I think aerobic threshold is very important when hiking, because I can enjoy the hike more because I am not gasping for air.
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