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Information requested on Wizard's Wash-Bowl
In my copy of McMartin's "Discover the Adirondack High Peaks" (3rd printing, 1993) she refers briefly to a small pool or pond I've yet to read of elsewhere. Concerning the trail from Indian Head to Fish Hawk Cliffs it reads "..from the intersection near Indian Head, head south, directly downhill, for a steep 160 foot drop to a col. Traverse in deep woods in the col, not far from a pool known as the Wizard's Wash-Bowl, and climb slightly to the top of Fish Hawk Cliffs.." (Page 181-2. This oddball name is not listed in the index.) Why I haven't read their regs in 15 or 20 years, I assume bushwhacking is still verboten on AMR property. Has anyone eyeballed this presumably little body of water? I didn't spied it in my last hike thru. Its not on the 7.5 X 15 minute quad nor visible at Wikimapia. Admittedly, I am a sucker for romantically named landforms. If Colvin had tagged Lake Tear-of-the-Clouds as Marv's Marsh or Disgusting Discharge-of-the-Orc, I would not have deviated from the hike up Skylight. |
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Did you ever find this place? The area between Indian Head & Fish Hawk is pretty thick and is on AMR land--no bushwhacking.
Barbara could be vague in her descriptions. Often they were written by other people and something gets lost in translation, but I'm sure she knew that there is no bushwhacking allowed on AMR land and kept it vague for that reason. |
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Nope... I never found the place. Not that I was gonna wander off the trail in that grid square. In the col between Indian Head and FH Cliffs, a jaunt off to one side must end in a matter of feet with a near vertical drop to the lake. The terrain of the other side appears wet and dense. Maybe the author's source got their notes scrambled...
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Yeah, I wouldn't think it would be on the lake side! My guess is that this "pool" is about 6 inches deep with seasonal water and filled with grass the rest of the year.
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Location: Keene, New York
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I heard about the Wizard's Washbowl a few years ago and actually did go looking for it, but an hour of thrashing around on both sides of the trail found nothing. Bill Ingersoll, do you you know anything more?
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No, I can't shed any light. I assumed that the reference was to a mossy little pool in the woods that somebody thought was "enchanting." I do recall seeing little vernal pools like that when I passed through a couple years ago, but I didn't investigate any further. Nearly everything on the AMR property worth seeing has a trail to it anyway.
It is true that the High Peaks book was written by multiple people. I have found that with those older editions of the Discover series, the easiest way to see who contributed which trail descriptions is to check the photo credits. In this case, the person who submitted photos of Indian Head and Fish Hawk probably wrote about the trail between them as well. (I don't have the book with me, so I can't say who that is.) It might be worthwhile to check "Up the Lake Road" to see if there are any references to Wizards Washbowl there. |
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I did a bit more digging and found this digitized text of Appalachia from the 1880s. Scrolling down to about p 228 there is a description of a hike to Mt. Colvin. The page isn't very navigation friendly, so I copied the relevant section here (note that the typos are probably a result of the text being scanned and not read correctly):
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I know the overhanging rock and the brook near it. Perhaps the brook drains the Washbowl? Pretty thick hike to find out. Illegal, too.
Tony, care to check it out for us??? |
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From these references:
"...around the left side of Indian Face and Colvin." "In 80 minutes..." I'm getting the impression that the "old trail" made a fairrly big circle around the north side of Indian Head, eventually joining Gill Brook. I'm getting that the location being described for the washbowl is just east of Gill Brook, at about the same latitude as the Indian Head lookout. I can't see a pond in that area on any satellite pics, but if it's it's small enough it would be over arched by trees and not detectable. Interesting mystery! |
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The part about the "80 minutes" could be a typo. As I mentioned, this was probably derived from a scanner trying to read an old library book. There are enough instances in the text that I quoted ("excellent road S^ miles long", "village to the pond, 6J miles") to cast a reasonable doubt about the 80. It might have been a 30 with a smudge in front of it.
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The "80 minutes" may be an error in scanning, but it certainly seems that the author is describing what is now known as the "Gill Brook Cut-off" and that the Wizard's Washbowl is nowhere near the summit of Indian Head. It could possibly be on the east side of Gill Brook, possibly near the designated campsite just past the AMR boundary. There is a small brook that flows into Gill Brook from the east, so maybe that's worth checking out. It's not private, so go for it.
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Quote:
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Intriguing puzzle!
Based on my interpretation of the text, I believe the stream and overhanging rock are located here, where the AMR's property line, the stream, and the Gill Brook Trail intersect. http://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=44.11...316&z=19&b=mbt The text indicates a 30 minute walk past this point brings you to a side-trail on the *left* that leads, another 5 minutes, to Wizard's Washbowl. If I understand this correctly, it means the washbowl is located east of the trail and in Gill Brook (given that 5 minutes walking-time is a short distance). Another half-hour's walk brings you to side trails for "High Falls" and "Fairy Ladder Falls" and the trail to Nippletop. So Wizard's Washbowl is located in Gill Brook, on State land, about halfway between the AMR property line and the existing trail junction (Nippletop/Colvin). In other words, a bit south of the third designated campsite along the Gill Brook Trail. http://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=44.11...1164&z=16&b=oo
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