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Old 05-15-2010, 01:54 PM   #1
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One chance.......

Okay, here's the deal.

You have one (and just one) opportunity to go back anywhere in the past 500 years and change just one thing to alter the course of environmental impact.

It can have nothing to do with regulation, politics, laws, etc.

When, where and what would it be?

Be serious, here's your chance to save the planet. Don't blow it!!

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Old 05-15-2010, 03:11 PM   #2
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Let the beavers run the dams, and put a stop to the damn hydroelectrics.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:48 PM   #3
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pigeons can leave ''marks'' in the city streets.The plan to ''eliminate'' them was a plan Venice derived up.Birth control pills. -A nurse I work with.

But,RH is talking about ''saving the Planet''
I would keep the motors out of boats and say''Row,and get exercise''
Of course,there are Regs. on this matter of pollution. what a gr8 question looncry
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:20 PM   #4
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Environmentally speaking, I guess it would be to smash the prototype for the internal combustion engine... hopefully someone could have then come through with a cleaner alternative
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:30 PM   #5
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Sure, you lay the huge question out there, and then hamstring us by limiting the response to just 500 years ago.
Otherwise, I would pick Hippocrates or Columbus to have never lived. Hippocrates laid the ground work for modern medicine, resulting in a proliferation of this cancer called mankind (I know, I'm one of the cells, too).
Or Columbus, had he never brought the "new world" to light, maybe the Native Americans could have had more time to organize against the onslaught of the Europeans...
But no, those are outside the limits of this question.
Then, I still can't choose....either Lenoir, Daimler or Benz, if one of those guys would never had invented/perfected internal combustion engines, the world would be a cleaner place.
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Old 05-15-2010, 06:51 PM   #6
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Industrial whaling, starting in the 1700s, and, by extension, today's "factory" fishing ships, drifter nets, vacuum trawlers and all their cursed, greedy ilk...
Goodbye forever, noble Northern Cod.
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:02 PM   #7
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resulting in a proliferation of this cancer called mankind (I know, I'm one of the cells, too).
Hmm - sounds like something Agent Smith said to Morpheus.

A couple of things spring to mind:

Wright Brothers...cars are bad, but air travel is worser.

Rather than displace and devalue the Native Americans during western expansion, how about learning from them how to be a better steward?
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:43 AM   #8
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I would wish for there to have never been oil underground for people to discover & find uses for. If that could be, progress & all that comes with it would have slowed down big time. Is it true that oil is really leftovers from dinosaurs? I'm skeptical on that theory. But I'm not a scientist so who knows? My vote is no oil & all the bad things associated with it.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:37 AM   #9
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My choice would have been that somehow, petroleum would have thought to be poisonous and never developed as a fossil fuel. That would have eliminated many of the things that followed, internal combustion engine, styrofoam, etc. etc.

We can imagine that alternate energy would have developed, wind, solar, geo, hydro, etc and that when someone finally figured out that petroleum could be used as a fuel, the energy companies would probably have said that it was too expensive to extract from the ground, there wasn't enough of it to be practical.

It was a close choice for me. the other "world altering event" would have been some catastrophic event, like an outbreak of some disease that reduced the human population to about 25% of what it is. Consumption is the second biggest problem that mankind causes in My Opinion.

Hopefully more people will weigh in on this topic with their ideas.

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Old 05-16-2010, 09:42 AM   #10
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Angry Without a doubt...

I would say that Styrofoam would NEVER be discovered.

On so many levels this stuff is toxic.

Ya think I'm kidding? Read a little bit about it here: Styrofoam



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Old 05-16-2010, 10:54 AM   #11
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introduce birth control, as early as possible.
That plan might also necessitate the dismantling or overthrow of the Roman Catholic Church. I'll allow Monty Python to explain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:03 AM   #13
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:17 AM   #14
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The first cars were electric, if we could have stayed with that technology that would be good.
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:34 AM   #15
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introduce birth control, as early as possible.
That plan might also necessitate the dismantling or overthrow of the Roman Catholic Church. I'll allow Monty Python to explain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:59 PM   #16
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You have one opportunity to go back anywhere in the past 500 years and change just one thing to alter the course of environmental impact.
I think that I'd probably think twice about sharing a few details about a few of my favorite places in the Adirondacks on a public internet forum.
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:58 PM   #17
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Midgley,_Jr. <----------This man did not do the environment any favors, that's for sure.

I would have to agree with Hawk's first choice about petroleum. Besides the energy source aspect, some of the horrible things that have been made with petroleum, including plastic. This is, of course, only regarding environmental impacts.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:25 PM   #18
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I would have done away with all forms of theism, mono and multi, and replaced fossil fuels with nuclear energy.

Oops, that's 2.
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Old 05-16-2010, 07:53 PM   #19
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So do we have any magical powers? or is this limited to things a single person can reasonably achieve using only our 21st century knowledge and technology.

it's easy to say "eliminate petroleum", but how, exactly, would you do that?
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Old 05-16-2010, 08:03 PM   #20
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hobbitling,
Believe it or not, but my business associates and I founded our R & D company 15 years ago with the elimination of oil as one of our goals...
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