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Originally posted by Tug Hill View PostI think you should “step off “from your imagined high horse, and not try to stereotype people on this site because of their user name. So if the state purchases the Whitney Property, that will somehow change national and global situations ?
But I know we don't need any more "working forests" in NY state. Plenty of the state is already deforested, could be re-forested for future timber, and there are already hundreds of "working forests".
If you don't know what I mean by "national and global" situations, you ought to really do some study on our current environmental issues, both on a smaller scale that you can see and a larger scale which you cannot easily see.
And try not to have such thin skin - it wasn't an attack on you. Your s/n is Tug Hill - it was tongue-in-cheek.Last edited by montcalm; 08-24-2020, 08:05 PM.
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Originally posted by Tug Hill View PostMy guess is the Nature Conservancy will purchase the property, sell a Conservation easement to the state securing certain rights to the public. Then TNC will sell it to a TIMO, timber investment management Organization, and most of the property will remain private property, and a working forest. The easement will protect certain camps and other improvements, and others will be torn down. Any hunt clubs will lose their exclusivity, but be able to lease their existing camps and a small envelope surrounding it.
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montcalm, the State has a deforestation program. Check out DEC's "young forest initiative". DEC land managers in central NY are loving the concept of creating grassland bird habitat from wooded land. Commenting on their plans might be another place for you to grind your ax
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Originally posted by St.Regis View Postmontcalm, the State has a deforestation program. Check out DEC's "young forest initiative". DEC land managers in central NY are loving the concept of creating grassland bird habitat from wooded land. Commenting on their plans might be another place for you to grind your ax
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...l37bv0SVuZHaM3
This has been done in other areas as well, particularly close to Lake Ontario to increase bird habitat. I believe the idea of this kind of thing is displacement - trying to make up for habitat destruction in other areas by creating artificial ones.
Most of CNY has little use for open field, the issue then is that it does not usually grow back to forest. Disturbances like this are what usually give way to White Pine stands. Large areas are really not that common though.
Also note this is a WMA (Wildlife Management Area) strategy mainly to please sportsmen. It has nothing to do with what is an ecologically proper forest architecture. The majority of NYS land IS NOT WMA.
I understand modern forestry is harvesting based on understanding of forest cycles and forest growth, but in no way is this "forest preserve". Despite all the superior wisdom I hear on this forum about our forest preserve, I've yet to hear anyone really comment on the positive impacts and what it means to move to back to a natural habitat some 300+ years after logging when seed trees have died off and we revert back to a natural cycle.Last edited by montcalm; 08-24-2020, 10:34 PM.
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Originally posted by Tug Hill View PostMy guess is the Nature Conservancy will purchase the property, sell a Conservation easement to the state securing certain rights to the public. Then TNC will sell it to a TIMO, timber investment management Organization, and most of the property will remain private property, and a working forest. The easement will protect certain camps and other improvements, and others will be torn down. Any hunt clubs will lose their exclusivity, but be able to lease their existing camps and a small envelope surrounding it.
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Originally posted by forest dweller View PostCan someone tell me if this has ever happened once the Nature Conservancy has purchased the land? Because it seems that once they buy it they hold out for putting it in the best hands possible - New York State...to be added to the forest preserve.Five Thousand Acres of Peace & Serenity
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Leases continue to term if any property is sold."There's a whisper on the night-wind, there's a star agleam to guide us, And the Wild is calling, calling . . . let us go." -from "The Call of the Wild" by Robert Service
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