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Old 04-22-2012, 11:15 PM   #1
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Bugs/Lean-Tos

This may be a stupid question but I'll go ahead and ask it anyways. How do you keep the bugs from getting up close and personal while sleeping in a lean-to. I talking more about spiders in particular than anything else, but keeping everything away would be nice. Last year while on the NPT, I stopped at the 2nd lean-to at Spruce Lake and remember seeing some pretty nice sized spiders hanging around in there.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:38 PM   #2
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Spiders never bother me. But certainly I would not want to sleep exposed in a lean-to during bug season.

I have a bug bivy that I use- it's just barely long enough that it covers my sleeping bag. It's tall enough that if I put in the effort to rig up some P-cord to a handy nail on the ceiling, I can sit up inside the bug bivy at night to read and whatnot. Overall, the whole setup is small enough that it doesn't take up any more room inside the lean-to than I would normally use without the net anyways- so plenty of space still for others to move in with me.
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Old 04-23-2012, 04:37 AM   #3
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Only camp in the Very late fall or winter, no bugs and often no mud.
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Only camp in the Very late fall or winter, no bugs and often no mud.
I've found that there is generally little need for bug protection after mid-August. Labor day is usually pretty bug free.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:12 AM   #5
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Everyone has their own phobias -- me, I don't worry about bugs/spiders. I'm more concerned with rodents getting up close and personal in a lean to.

The only sure fire way to keep your distance from bugs/rodents is some type of bivy.
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Everyone has their own phobias -- me, I don't worry about bugs/spiders. I'm more concerned with rodents getting up close and personal in a lean to.

The only sure fire way to keep your distance from bugs/rodents is some type of bivy.
Nothing quite like the feeling of some mouses cold little feet scurrying across your face in your sleep...
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:46 AM   #7
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I've found that there is generally little need for bug protection after mid-August. Labor day is usually pretty bug free.
That's what I figured too when I did my hike from Piseco to Wakely dam last August. Literally as soon as I entered the woods on the trail at Piseco I had mosquitoes all over me! Maybe because last year was extra wet? Good to know on the bivy though, I'll check those out. Thanks
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That's what I figured too when I did my hike from Piseco to Wakely dam last August. Literally as soon as I entered the woods on the trail at Piseco I had mosquitoes all over me! Maybe because last year was extra wet? Good to know on the bivy though, I'll check those out. Thanks
Yeah, last year had abnormal bug conditions. The occasional mosquito was still out in October.

Normally, by the last week or two in August, one can enjoy the woods without the need for nets.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:03 PM   #9
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I carry a one man backpacking tent. It weighs about 4 lbs and I can avoid lean-tos.

Spider don't bother me, but rodents and their nasty little feces do.

Get yourself a lightweight tent and you'll never worry about lean-tos again.

Even when I go on big, grueling trips, I carry my one man tent and I can sleep alone in solitude witout the snoring and condensation that comes with sharing a tent. It's worth the extra weight. A nice Thermarest is also worth carrying as you will sleep like a baby without a care in the world.

You can spend a week out carrying a one man tent and a Thermarest and still be under 40lbs. I usually clock in at 38lbs for a week long trip and I get to sleep alone and comfortably. It's worth it. 38lbs is nothing to carry and I only weigh about 165lbs.

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Old 04-26-2012, 08:47 AM   #10
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Nothing quite like the feeling of some mouses cold little feet scurrying across your face in your sleep...
That happened to my son once..although he was still awake when it happened!

"Get yourself a lightweight tent and you'll never worry about lean-tos again."

Better yet, get yourself a hammock. It may take some getting used to, but you won't miss the hard floor of a lean-to or the ground once you do!
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Better yet, get yourself a hammock. It may take some getting used to, but you won't miss the hard floor of a lean-to or the ground once you do!
I don't mind hard floors... I find them pretty comfortable. I'm not sure what it is- I like really firm mattresses too. I also dislike soft pillows. Maybe I was a Klingon in a previous life.
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:22 PM   #12
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Problems with some lean-tos:
frequently filled
confrontations from some who feel they "own" the lean-to
noise from "roommates"
"barnyard" sounds from other campers all night
wind/rain
leaky roof
mice
snakes
etc.

As for bugs/spiders, etc., a no-see-um netting setup would solve that.

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Old 04-26-2012, 08:46 PM   #13
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Nothing quite like the feeling of some mouses cold little feet scurrying across your face in your sleep...
And waking you up and staring at you staring at it before exiting. Happened to me on Whiteface..
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:50 AM   #14
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That happened to my son once..although he was still awake when it happened!



Better yet, get yourself a hammock. It may take some getting used to, but you won't miss the hard floor of a lean-to or the ground once you do!
So far, I prefer to hug Mother Earth, she still conveys a message. Albeit this body is getting old and worn and weaning may be a inevitable.
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:44 AM   #15
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So far, I prefer to hug Mother Earth, she still conveys a message. Albeit this body is getting old and worn and weaning may be a inevitable.
Soo...do you hug trees as well? Sorry...I just couldn't let that one go by!

By the way, I went to hanging from trees a couple of years ago because my bod is getting older as well.
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Soo...do you hug trees as well? Sorry...I just couldn't let that one go by!

By the way, I went to hanging from trees a couple of years ago because my bod is getting older as well.
Too funny! Yes I am a certified tree hugger much to the chagrin of my folk and friends. it is a weird thing but I still find it magical and mysterious and find comfort on the ground. Don't get me wrong, I still moan in ecstasy when I am reunited with my waterbed.
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:11 AM   #17
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I'm going to bump this thread...

Does anyone ever go to the length of tying a screen or plastic to the front. A screen would be good for bugs, and the plastic would be good in case of heavy rain.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:07 AM   #18
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Does anyone ever go to the length of tying a screen or plastic to the front. A screen would be good for bugs, and the plastic would be good in case of heavy rain.
Not sure about the screen, but I'm pretty sure plastic is illegal...must be canvas or nylon tarps...
The regulation says "The enclosure of the fronts of open camps (lean-tos) is prohibited, except by tying canvas or nylon tarpaulins in place or erecting snow walls. The use of wood, nails, screws or other fasteners is prohibited."
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Yes, the whole point of a lean-to is that it only has 3 walls!

Aesthetics aside, yes, as Justin states, it's illegal to use plastic to close off the front of a lean-to. Tarps loosely tied across the front are ok.

I'd think that screening would be ok from a legal stand point... but probably not worth the trouble. It'd take a lot of screening to completely close off the front, and the bugs are still going to find other ways in anyways. Much better just to get a personal bug net that you can sleep in.
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Yes, the whole point of a lean-to is that it only has 3 walls!

Aesthetics aside, yes, as Justin states, it's illegal to use plastic to close off the front of a lean-to. Tarps loosely tied across the front are ok.

I'd think that screening would be ok from a legal stand point... but probably not worth the trouble. It'd take a lot of screening to completely close off the front, and the bugs are still going to find other ways in anyways. Much better just to get a personal bug net that you can sleep in.
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