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Old 12-03-2014, 01:40 AM   #1
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Hunting Accident in Essex County

Terrible story out of Mineville.

An 83 year old was shot in the abdomen by another hunter and is in critical condition.

http://www.pressrepublican.com/news/...065bff60e.html

Not a lot of details about the incident yet... but while trying to find more information about this situation I stumbled upon the statistic for hunting related shootings last month. Nation wide, the number was 44. 44! Does that strike anyone else as incredibly high?
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Old 12-03-2014, 04:26 PM   #2
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Very unfortunate for sure. Shooting accidents are inexcusable and zero should be the answer, but there are somewhere around 13 million hunters in the USA. So from a statistics standpoint, 44 isn't very high at all.

There were 19 hunting-related incidents last year in NY. Two were fatal (one was self-inflicted). Of the 19 incidents, 14 were self-inflicted.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_...etystats13.pdf
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:03 AM   #3
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hunting incidents in NY have been on the decline for years. 44 shootings out of the number hunting is less than 1% I would bet that the percentage of people going to church is higher
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:02 PM   #4
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Hunting Accident in Essex County

If there are 13 million hunters, and assuming each hunter goes hunting 5 times a year, then the percentage chance of an incident/accident is .00006 %. Or, a 1 in 1.5 million chance.

That actually seems very low.


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Old 12-12-2014, 11:25 AM   #5
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http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/95689.html


The fact sheet from NY
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Old 12-12-2014, 03:07 PM   #6
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27 shootings and 2.6 deaths per year in NY alone, most of which happen over the span of a few months, seems awfully high to me. Maybe I just have a really low tolerance for the thought of getting shot in the woods.

Btw, last update I read was good news. The 87 year old was upgraded to stable after 2 surgeries.

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Old 12-12-2014, 04:31 PM   #7
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Where I hunt I never fail to hear at least several times a season a 5 shot Charlie. Obviously shooting at a running target he shoots until his gun is empty. Judging by the speed of shots there is no way he can see whats in the background. Its an accident waiting to happen.
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Old 12-12-2014, 05:57 PM   #8
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Even one incident is one to many but the fact is whether it is hunting hiking, canoeing there is always the fool that will do something stupid. My point is that for the number of people out there hunting vs the accident rate is minimal.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:16 AM   #9
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27 shootings and 2.6 deaths per year in NY alone, most of which happen over the span of a few months, seems awfully high to me.
I lived in the DC metro area for a long time, and when I left they were having 16 deaths/homicides (by shooting) per month. That is almost 4 per week. These did not involve hunting (as hunting is not allowed in DC).

All things being equal, hunting is reasonably safe. It would be nice if there were no hunting accidents, but any endeavor in life rarely turns out to be 100% risk free. I think the most frequent cause of injury is from hunters falling out of treestands.
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:40 AM   #10
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In 2013 there were a total of 19 gun related incidents with 2 fatal in New York. Out of the 19 15 were self inflected wounds because the person involved didn't follow basic safety rules 1 of which was fatal. The other was a shooter victim (4) which involved the 2nd fatality.


http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_...etystats13.pdf

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Old 01-12-2015, 02:46 PM   #11
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A 33 year man was finally arrested for the shooting. Criminal possession of a firearm? I don't get it. He was hunting. Must be more to it.

http://www.timesunion.com/news/artic...er-6009917.php
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Old 01-12-2015, 03:08 PM   #12
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Maybe he has a prior felony arrest.
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Old 01-21-2015, 08:03 AM   #13
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Maybe the shotgun was a semi-auto with a pistol grip.
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Old 01-29-2015, 01:53 PM   #14
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In 2013 there were a total of 19 gun related incidents with 2 fatal in New York. Out of the 19 15 were self inflected wounds because the person involved didn't follow basic safety rules 1 of which was fatal. The other was a shooter victim (4) which involved the 2nd fatality.


http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_...etystats13.pdf
Here's the stats for 2014 just released today. One fatality, a small game hunter. If you really want to dig into some nationwide stats snoop around NSSF's website: http://nssf.org/

Contrary to many opinions, hunting is one of the safest recreational activities there is.
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Old 01-29-2015, 02:35 PM   #15
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Buckladd, is hogtown near rogers rock?
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Buckladd, is hogtown near rogers rock?
It's on the east shore of Lake George, down near the south end of the lake. Rogers Rock is on the west shore, near the north end.
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It's on the east shore of Lake George, down near the south end of the lake. Rogers Rock is on the west shore, near the north end.
Correct, Hogtown is in West Fort Ann and part of the Lake George Wild Forest.
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:12 PM   #18
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Hogtown is where it was at...lots of exciting things happen there in the old days..Hogtown Inn-Bee's Ranch..now that was living....great times for a kid working at the Y-camp on the other side of the mountain...
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Old 01-30-2015, 07:55 AM   #19
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Sounds like you had some fun up there. Bee's was before my time, but both my uncles were musicians and used to play music there and I've heard many stories.

In the 1970s The Hogtown Inn was owned by the Winchell family who are still friends of mine to this day. We had a lot of fun up there until it burnt in 1987. The property is now owned by a former counselor from one of the scout camps that used to be there.
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