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Old 03-01-2020, 05:53 PM   #21
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If you really need to get there, I have heard that when the road was closed at Otter Brook, Gary Lee used to go in via Beaver Lake, and a faint trail from Beaver to Squaw. Unless Inlet DPW goes in, I doubt that section will get priority to be fixed. I've seen it mid July before you could drive in to Squaw.
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If you really need to get there, I have heard that when the road was closed at Otter Brook, Gary Lee used to go in via Beaver Lake, and a faint trail from Beaver to Squaw. Unless Inlet DPW goes in, I doubt that section will get priority to be fixed. I've seen it mid July before you could drive in to Squaw.
Yeah, I was thinking of cutting below Beaver and bushwhack to Sqaw. Blaze a trail with markers maybe.

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Old 03-02-2020, 09:27 AM   #23
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I have been near the end of Rock Dam, signs were posted prominently. At the time the road was apparently being used for logging. Upon seeing ALC property gate it looked like they clear cut the entire area, something about a future nature preserve, not sure on that one though.


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Old 03-02-2020, 11:29 AM   #24
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Even driving to Squaw might not be possible for quite a while because the Indian lake road was badly washed out below the Brooktrout lake trailhead during the Halloween storm.

Given that section rarely opens before late May on a good year, might be looking at mid June if you're lucky.
The MRP roads do not normally open until Memorial Day, and the last few years it has only opened to the Moose River then. Many years in recent memory it has been as late as late July before the road opened to Squaw.

If you really need to get there, Gary Lee of Inlet, the former MRP Ranger, said once that he had gone in by hiking to Beaver Lake, maybe using a cart for his boat, then crossed Beaver to an old trail that climbs up to Squaw, carrying the boat. If you can get across the Moose, or if the closure is on the other side of the River past where the Beaver Lake trail starts, you could attempt this route, but I don't think it would be a "walk in the park", and if you could settle for Brown Trout, Beaver has a reputation for some big ones.
Whatever you want back there unless it is a really cold spring, I think you will need an EXTREME tolerance for black flies, until about mid July!
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Old 03-02-2020, 02:18 PM   #25
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I believe all of ALC property is posted like Nazi Germany. Definitely hard to miss their property markers.

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Yes, and they are known to patrol their borders. Especially after a couple of arson incidents a few years ago. ALC property exists northwest of North Lake, on a line from of Canachagala Mountain and all of Canachagala Lake north to Natural Rock Dam. You can see their signs immediately below the dam.
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I have been near the end of Rock Dam, signs were posted prominently. At the time the road was apparently being used for logging. Upon seeing ALC property gate it looked like they clear cut the entire area, something about a future nature preserve, not sure on that one though.


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I donít know about a nature preserve, but their forest management plan is greatly benefiting the whitetail deer herd there. I saw some of the bucks taken on the ALC this past fall and they were pretty awesome.

Also, I donít think posting private property makes anyone a ďNaziĒ. Naziís were socialists, and most socialist are opposed to private property. So who is really the Nazi ?
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Do they have a fence?

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I donít know about a nature preserve, but their forest management plan is greatly benefiting the whitetail deer herd there. I saw some of the bucks taken on the ALC this past fall and they were pretty awesome.



Also, I donít think posting private property makes anyone a ďNaziĒ. Naziís were socialists, and most socialist are opposed to private property. So who is really the Nazi ?
No, I am not a Nazi either. But where did you read they are opposed to private property?

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Old 03-03-2020, 09:24 AM   #29
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From North Lake, I bushwhacked on a ghost trail toward Horn Lake, then rounded north of Balsam Lake and made my way around Stink Lake on a very old ghost trail to cross the river at Rock Dam.
I have to ask: Did Stink Lake stink?
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Old 03-03-2020, 09:34 AM   #30
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I have to ask: Did Stink Lake stink?
No, not at all, not anymore than any other similar small lake. Balsam Lake, however, was quite heavily weed choked at the time in July with a soft mucky bottom and I can imagine that at times decomposition may have an effect there.
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Sorry for the redundancy in posts, but for a while there, my posts were apparently lost in the ether.

I think it was in French Louie by Dunham, or maybe one of B. McMartin's, that I read that Stink Lake got its name from a catch of trout abandoned by a "sport" there. Considering some of the catches I've seen in pix from back in the late 1800's, that could have been what most of us might keep in 5 or more years in this day and age, and they could have gotten quite ripe!

I don't recall ever seeing Balsam listed as a trout pond, maybe that is why. I know Muskrat, across from Indian, is another shallow one, and no one spoke of it as a fishing spot even back when the Plains opened.

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In NYS a fence is not required , just the posters at a minimum interval.

Last time I went in to Rock Dam, we fished downstream. It is a fair distance to the ALC line, but less than 1/2 mile, I had heard that the State stocks trout back there (or did) and there is a fair stretch of the Moose that is fishable although it is not easy to fish or even to access with the thick brush, huge boulders and deep holes scattered throughout. We basically spent 10 minutes to access a spot good for maybe 5 minutes of fan casting with inline spinners, then another 10 minutes to get out, then repeat downstream a ways. We caught no fish but it was afternoon in the summer. Nevertheless, it is a GREAT hike in and out, through a beautiful bog with lots of bunchberry and gentian along the trail and corduroy, and the pool at the "dam" is also very attractive, and looks like it would provide a great swim. I recommend it highly if the road is open down to there, this is another Plains road that opens late most years of late.
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My only visit to Rock Dam was in 2013 or so. I was there in August of whatever year it was, and Rock Dam Rd was still closed due to a severe washout. Luckily I was traveling by bike, so I was able to carry the bike over the washout and ride in solitary splendor the rest of the way, without looking over my shoulder all the time for overtaking traffic. It was a very pretty spot, I thought, and I'd like to go back someday.
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In NYS a fence is not required , just the posters at a minimum interval.

Last time I went in to Rock Dam, we fished downstream. It is a fair distance to the ALC line, but less than 1/2 mile, I had heard that the State stocks trout back there (or did) and there is a fair stretch of the Moose that is fishable although it is not easy to fish or even to access with the thick brush, huge boulders and deep holes scattered throughout. We basically spent 10 minutes to access a spot good for maybe 5 minutes of fan casting with inline spinners, then another 10 minutes to get out, then repeat downstream a ways. We caught no fish but it was afternoon in the summer. Nevertheless, it is a GREAT hike in and out, through a beautiful bog with lots of bunchberry and gentian along the trail and corduroy, and the pool at the "dam" is also very attractive, and looks like it would provide a great swim. I recommend it highly if the road is open down to there, this is another Plains road that opens late most years of late.
Definitely going to put my feet to the ground, thanks.
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"and gentian along the trail" Gentian makes a good moonshine. In the Alps it is called Enzian and its flower is a pretty blue.
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