TP in the woods

[DuctTape]

A good book for those interested is "How to Sh!t in the Woods".

[rickhart]

Originally Posted by mossarden

the best sanitary tool is a small garden shovel.... hole should be six inches down...obviously not near water or other activity. TP?... a leaf or two is perfectly fine with me

Just make sure it's not poison ivy...

[ADKpikebuster]

Can't believe I just read a thread about what people do with their sh!t when they're in the woods, I can't be that bored....can I?

[mossarden]

Sanitation is actually very appropriate subject matter for this forum. Not adding nutrients and bacteria to water is a huge issue, for the ADK's...and much of the world ..... ( The Gates Foundation, in trying to solve the world's big problems, is working on designing better outhouses.)
We need to care that our waste is disposed of properly and biodegrades naturally....otherwise its pollution.

[DSettahr]

Originally Posted by rickhart

Just make sure it's not poison ivy...

Fortunately, poison ivy is extremely rare in the Adirondack backcounty.

[ADKpikebuster]

Originally Posted by mossarden

Sanitation is actually very appropriate subject matter for this forum. Not adding nutrients and bacteria to water is a huge issue, for the ADK's...and much of the world ..... ( The Gates Foundation, in trying to solve the world's big problems, is working on designing better outhouses.)
We need to care that our waste is disposed of properly and biodegrades naturally....otherwise its pollution.

[wellsley]

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•Use pit privies provided near popular camping areas and trailheads. If none are available, dispose of human waste by digging a hole 6"-8" deep at least 150 feet from water or campsites. Cover with leaves and soil.

[l'oiseau]

Originally Posted by DuctTape

A good book for those interested is "How to Sh!t in the Woods".

The long answer.

Originally Posted by wellsley

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•Use pit privies provided near popular camping areas and trailheads. If none are available, dispose of human waste by digging a hole 6"-8" deep at least 150 feet from water or campsites. Cover with leaves and soil.

The short one.

And the official LNT answer to the original pose is to pack out the TP which I refuse to do if there is organic soil.

Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug?

[Justin]

No TP?
No problem.
Just use the communal "Camp Rock" curtain.

[DuctTape]

Originally Posted by l'oiseau

The long answer.



The short one.

And the official LNT answer to the original pose is to pack out the TP which I refuse to do if there is organic soil.

Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug?

The technique is called "smearing" or "frosting". One is to smear their feces thin on an exposed rock, the uV from the sun will destroy the microbes and the wind/precipitation will wash it all away. This technique can also be used in other conditions such as lack of organic soil to biodegrade. This technique is no longer recommended due to people not following proper smearing protocols.

[l'oiseau]

Originally Posted by DuctTape

The technique is called "smearing" or "frosting". One is to smear their feces thin on an exposed rock, the uV from the sun will destroy the microbes and the wind/precipitation will wash it all away. This technique can also be used in other conditions such as lack of organic soil to biodegrade.

I've never heard of that but it sounds awful. I'd rather take my chances with the camp rock curtain!

I try to find a log a I can hide it under but in most cases have been near a privy. Luckily I'm not out long enough in the winter to have to excise this very often.

[DSettahr]

Originally Posted by Justin

No TP?
No problem.
Just use the communal "Camp Rock" curtain.

Kelly Point, Long Lake, High Peaks Wilderness?

[DSettahr]

Originally Posted by l'oiseau

I've never heard of that but it sounds awful. I'd rather take my chances with the camp rock curtain!

This is commonly accepted practice in the desert.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by DSettahr

Kelly Point, Long Lake, High Peaks Wilderness?

[wellsley]

Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug?
I'd get off the beaten path and if there was snow bury it in the snow, if no snow cover it with leaf litter. I ain't packing it out. I do know of a ticket given for crapping in the woods, the person was almost on the trail and in plan site did not even try to cover it. I think if you just use a little common sense there should be a problem.

[John H Swanson]

Originally Posted by wellsley

Now in the winter... what does one do when the ground is frozen and hole can't be dug? I'd get off the beaten path and if there was snow bury it in the snow, if no snow cover it with leaf litter. I ain't packing it out. I do know of a ticket given for crapping in the woods, the person was almost on the trail and in plan site did not even try to cover it. I think if you just use a little common sense there should be a problem.

I burn it.

[wellsley]

Originally Posted by John H Swanson

I burn it.

Sounds doable at times.

[Schultzz]

Would this be a help for some?

Hey all of you IBSers - here is an invention that you are going to kick yourself for not thinking up first: glow-in-the-dark toilet paper. A company out of the UK called Thumbs Up has beaten you to the punch. And, what a good idea it is! No longer will you need to put on glaring overhead lighting when you need to use the john. The web site itself labels the product "perfect for power cuts".

[l'oiseau]

I have IBS and I don't really get it?

I am proficient at digging holes and I always carry some eco-friendly paper with me. I keep a headlamp for night duties.

My wife did tell me the other day she envisions her last thoughts before she dies being me walking into the woods with a roll of tp under my arm

[yellowcanoe]

Originally Posted by Schultzz

Would this be a help for some?

Hey all of you IBSers - here is an invention that you are going to kick yourself for not thinking up first: glow-in-the-dark toilet paper. A company out of the UK called Thumbs Up has beaten you to the punch. And, what a good idea it is! No longer will you need to put on glaring overhead lighting when you need to use the john. The web site itself labels the product "perfect for power cuts".

No. At seven dollars plus a roll you have to be kidding. Plus better living through more chemistry? God forbid I ever see this in the Adirondacks.