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Old 02-16-2021, 08:51 PM   #1
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Ultimate ADK BC ski?



Voile Objective BC.

I have no idea actually, I've yet to ski them in the Adirondacks but using them for a number of steeper areas in western NY I've found them pretty remarkable as a DH ski. They are super light, fairly narrow and plenty rockered.

They are a tad slow for touring, I'll say that. If you really don't have any kind of challenging descent they probably aren't worth it, but if you have a long or challenging descent, even on a trail, these suckers can pin turns even with modest boots and bindings. I'd guess they'd do real nice as a trail ski in the HPW. Or if you are breaking through deep snow - at that point they become fairly nice, but not as good as a more traditional ski design, even on a wider platform.

Pluses:
  • Super light for the width. 115/82/99, 5lbs per pair in 178cm.
  • Wide enough for great turns in most east coast pow. And other BC conditions.
  • Waxless base that climbs really well in almost all snow.
  • Reasonably stiff and stable, especially for the weight.
  • Ample tip rocker keeps the tips up in deep snow even skiing forward and aggressive on the skis.
  • Made in USA.

Negatives:
  • Only available in limited sizes. Longest size of 178cm is a quick turner but on the short side for tall/heavy skiers.
  • Really expensive.
  • Not recommended for Tele mount. I have mine mounted with a 4 hole plate and only ski them with light boots and in soft snow. With big boots and hard skiing people have pulled bindings out.
  • Poor glide. The combo of rocker, low camber and stiff, damped layup makes these feel really dead touring. Also the scales don't slide all that well. For climbing and descending, you don't notice it so much. Flatter sections are a drag though.
  • Wide, low tips don't break trail as well as traditional tips. Wide shovels and dh shape profile can make for an awkward stride.

I mainly use mine for climbing and descending doing laps. But I also found them so nimble on single track trails, especially descending and climbing, they may be better/more fun for some skiers on trails.
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:50 AM   #2
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I ski an Åsnes Tindan 86, as my “fat ski”. It’s waxable, so no scale drag, it’s also available in a 187. It is a bit stiffer with a poplar core instead of paulownia. I can get kick and glide in soft snow. I look at it as a deeper snow touring ski with a goal of downhill turning.
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:19 PM   #3
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Interesting ski. A bit heavier, even in a 176.

I have wax skis, and I don't use them as much TBH. These climb really well - surprisingly well. I prefer not to use skins, if I can avoid it.

When the snow is right, I do really like my Asnes Ingstads.



I really haven't used the skins or the skin attachment. The edges were way too sharp and grabby at first, but much better now. They are a decent, all-around BC XC ski. They do tour really nice. They have a certain smoothness to the camber that most other skis don't have. It translates into a really good kick and glide. I wouldn't really ski them on anything too steep though - unless it's really wide open and not too firm.

Just a comparison, those skis weigh a 1 lb more per pair than the Objectives... and those are light skis (for a 200cm).
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Old 02-17-2021, 09:52 PM   #4
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Nice taste in skis Montcalm. That is not the current version of the Ingstad, however the military version of that ski is still sold the Åsnes NATO Combat ski. The NATO durability requirements make for a somewhat heavier ski.
I’m not a big scale guy, I think they have their place in warm snow, but in the cold snow I’ve been skiing in the last month and a half you can’t beat wax. I admit warm snow is not easy peasy like cold snow, however I still prefer wax, or even klister.
That Objective sure is a nice ski, if they made them longer I probably would have one.
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Old 02-17-2021, 11:01 PM   #5
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I think the short length is nice. It makes them a really great woods ski. Again, to me, it’s a ski for going up and down steeper terrain. For more rolling, mellow tours it is way overkill.

I guess my thought with the OP is it’s just a really versatile ski that even a relatively novice skier will be able to ski a lot with. It’s no fuss, it excels at trailbreaking and it descends like a demon. A Nordic skier would find them too slow. A slide skier would probably find them too narrow and light. But they could definitely do it all.
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Old 02-18-2021, 09:32 AM   #6
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I agree Montcalm. I was only discussing subtle differences. You’re spot on.
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