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Old 06-26-2004, 10:36 PM   #1
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You know a 46er Peak is too touristic when...

I'm talking about Whiteface here. I peaked Esther and Whiteface today.

Ok, so here goes.
You know a 46er Peak is too touristic when...

1. You can't have a private piss on the summit.
2. Somebody asks you if you want a ride back down, they have plenty-a-room, because they drive a van.
3. While you are all sweaty and full of mud, the person standing next to you smells Channel no.5
4. This same person is wearing knee high boots.
5. People you see don't say hello.
6. You just hiked the 4800'+ mountain stopping by Esther, and you hear a couple saying there should be an elevator or something instead of the stairs starting at the parking lot 100' lower.
7.You can't stay at the summit marker more than 10 seconds because there's a line of people waiting to take their picture at that same exact spot.
8. You are stressed while eating your lunch because some kids decided to play "You It" aroud you.

I was flying solo so that is what I was thinking of going back down. Feel free to add your personal favorites, if any pop to mind from your experiences.
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Old 06-27-2004, 12:02 AM   #2
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You see them at the top and they ask you, "Now what is the name of this one again?"

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Old 06-27-2004, 12:03 AM   #3
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They are wearing jeans and or tennis shoes on the summit (ive even seen the button-down shirt!)

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Old 06-27-2004, 12:05 AM   #4
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There is a steward at the top.
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:29 AM   #5
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:55 AM   #6
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Old 06-27-2004, 10:31 AM   #7
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They are wearing jeans and or tennis shoes on the summit
Now now, don't knock tennis shoes. I LOVE hiking in running shoes. It's more comfortable then hiking boots. I only wear boots when I'm backpacking or I know the trail will be muddy. Trails like the Ridge Trail on Giant - why bother - its not ever that muddy and the running shoes feel good on the steep rock.

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Old 06-27-2004, 10:44 AM   #8
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Does anybody know when the road closes? I think I'll do these 2 pks. after that.
BTW I'll bet the road would be a great ski after the first snow, if not too deep. But then, would that count for an aspiring 46er?
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Old 06-27-2004, 10:47 AM   #9
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I think it counts. People ski the road a lot in the winter.

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Old 06-27-2004, 12:43 PM   #10
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Wehn there is an ATM, a change machine and a kodak photo kiosk on the top!
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Old 06-27-2004, 03:46 PM   #11
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i wear sneakers.
i don't like a real stiff boot/shoe.


i will also piss on a summit.

fragile, unique plant life? yes, but if it can withstand gale force winds, hail, freezing rain, and intense thunderstorms then it can withstand my little stream of urine.
gimme a break.

and for the record martin, i'll also go across the border and pee on a maple tree or a hockey rink, or whatever you guys hold dear.
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Check into a light-weight waterproof boot. Don't you fear breaking an ankle? I mean a LOT of the mountains involve at least a mile of rock-to-rock hopping. I'd think thats quite dangerous with tennis shoes on, especially with any kind of pack on your back. Maybe I'm wrong??

How about Scarpa's (i couldn't be more satisfied with a boot, right out of the box)
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Old 06-27-2004, 06:01 PM   #13
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and for the record martin, i'll also go across the border and pee on a maple tree or a hockey rink, or whatever you guys hold dear.
That's why the sap I tasted from the bucket was somewhat not as good as usual...
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Old 06-27-2004, 06:32 PM   #14
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I just bought a new gortex hiking boot from EMS that is lighter than my sneaker. no worries about getting my feet wet with the gortex. We just did Saddleback and Basin 2 weeks ago and I can't praise the Vibrom soles enough. I felt like a fly walking up a wall.
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Old 06-27-2004, 07:00 PM   #15
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Skiing the road definately counts - no doubt about it. You're traveling under your own power and coming down IN STYLE !!

For those that may not know: the Auto Road is generally better skied early in the season. As the winter wears on, it gets a little crappier up there conditions-wise.

We did it mid-April once and it was very difficult to come down with the many different snow conditions. I took numerous spills as I'm a very untalented CC skier.
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Old 06-27-2004, 08:26 PM   #16
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Check into a light-weight waterproof boot. Don't you fear breaking an ankle? I mean a LOT of the mountains involve at least a mile of rock-to-rock hopping. I'd think thats quite dangerous with tennis shoes on, especially with any kind of pack on your back. Maybe I'm wrong??

i did hurt my knee once, but i was wearing a decent, medium-weight pair of morrells at the time.
i've never had a problem with my ankles in sneakers.
i should note that i don't wear the flat sole "tennis shoes". i wear good quality cross trainer athletic sneakers. one of my next purchases is going to be an ultralight pair of trail running shoes.

part of the reason i don't need boots may be because i don't carry a very heavy pack anymore.

i've read ( and i believe ) that there is a little bit of a myth, kind of an understandable illusion that thicker, heavier, higher boots = more ankle support, when actually ankle support all comes from the part of the shoe thats around your heel anyway.
sometimes (well made) low cut sneakers can have more ankle support than boots.

i'm no podiatrist, i can't speak for anyone else, but this is what works for me.

BTW - i'm talking about 2-3 season conditions.
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That's why the sap I tasted from the bucket was somewhat not as good as usual...

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Old 06-27-2004, 08:41 PM   #18
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It's to touristy when they sell bumper stickers that proclaim "This car climbed mt. washington"...I hate those freakin stickers.
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Old 06-27-2004, 09:42 PM   #19
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It's to touristy when they sell bumper stickers that proclaim "This car climbed mt. washington"...I hate those freakin stickers.

Yeah, and never buy a used car that has one of those stickers on. Think about what the brakes go through going down.
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:04 PM   #20
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Being a 46er to include being a Winter 46er, climbing was a huge part of my life. Climbing every weekend for 12 years, I too, thought Whiteface was a "ruined mountain." After an automobile accident 2 years ago, leaving me unable to climb, I have learned to appreciate the Highway, elevators and Summit views. My perspective of the mountain had turned from resentment to grateful. It is one mountain that I can still get up, and reminince about when I climbed the mountains, and enjoy my view of the glory of standing on a High Peak again. My point is "be grateful that you can still climb those mountains, enjoying the views, and don't worry about how many other people are on the summit.
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