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Old 09-26-2020, 10:59 AM   #41
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A friend of mine who is a fellow guide instructor thought he had a perfect solution to throwing a rope over a branch. He had a slingshot with fishing line attached to a larger rope, and a steel washer tied to the end of the line. He fired the washer at the branch, only to have it run out of line and the monofilament acted like a spring to launch the washer straight back to where it came from with great velocity. Of course it struck my friend directly in his forehead before he could duck, leaving a large mark. So much for a good idea. I remind him of it from time to time.
A light piece of string tied to a throwable weight on one end and the other end of the string tied to your rope will get the job done (without taking out an eye). However, the sling shot would be big fun for other entertainment
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Old 09-26-2020, 01:20 PM   #42
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True, but an agency (or legislature) can and do. They do not use names, but instead write the regulations in such a manner to exclude certain brands while promoting others.
When I wrote my evaluations of contract proposals, that is how the evaluation had to be written to get the winner we really wanted and to exclude others unwanted. Unless of course it was a small business company owned by a minority/female/veteran, then as long as the proposal was minimally acceptable, with the automatic point scale it was an in for final negotiation and funding with the contracting office.
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Old 09-26-2020, 05:25 PM   #43
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You could invest in a dog... I'm pretty sure with a dog you could keep your food on the ground and nothing will bother it, but don't hold me to that.
It doesn't work-trust me.
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Old 09-26-2020, 10:20 PM   #44
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Boy, this thread takes me back. I'm not too great at throwing, either. I wasted hours & hours of time trying to get lines up. Of course they tangle most times too.


After I had to get a bear canister for the High Peaks area, I realized they save all that trouble, and even better, keep out all the other little critters. Last year I finally splurged and got a Bearikade. They have more sizes, too -- and the one closest to the larger Garcia holds a bit more then the Garcia. Lighter, but awfully expensive (isn't that the common trade-off?)
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Old 09-27-2020, 01:46 PM   #45
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Boy, this thread takes me back. I'm not too great at throwing, either. I wasted hours & hours of time trying to get lines up. Of course they tangle most times too.


After I had to get a bear canister for the High Peaks area, I realized they save all that trouble, and even better, keep out all the other little critters. Last year I finally splurged and got a Bearikade. They have more sizes, too -- and the one closest to the larger Garcia holds a bit more then the Garcia. Lighter, but awfully expensive (isn't that the common trade-off?)
IMO and IME, the Garcia is worth it. It works. I have been burned more often by littler critters getting into my day pack...
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Old 04-19-2021, 06:54 AM   #46
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I see this conversation is a year old... But my question is almost the same so I am reviving this. Recent Trip Report from TomCat mentioned wanton attacks by the apex predator of the Northwoods - the field mouse. Pillaging by airborne rodents was also mentioned.
Last year (2020) was a banner year for mice in the Adirondacks. After a relatively quiet year (2019) the mouse population just about exploded everywhere.

I spent one god-awful night in the Island House Lean-to on Long Lake while paddling Long Lake to the Crusher via the Raquette River. They were everywhere; all night long it was like a three-ring circus of no fewer than 10 mice hopping around the lean-to, on me, on my stuff, in my stuff. They found my bear hang and got into that too.

It made me wish that I'd brought a bear canister on that trip. But honestly the mice were so bad that they probably would've been able to get into the bear canister too (as happened a couple of times at Marcy Dam during the 2020 season).
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Old 04-20-2021, 06:20 AM   #47
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Just curious... how did mice get into a bear canister? Or do they just chew through the plastic?
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Old 04-20-2021, 06:44 AM   #48
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Yep. I know of one instance for sure where it happened, and I believe it happened one or two additional times over the course of the season. The rodent basically spent the day (night?) slowly chewing through the plastic until it had made a hole big enough to get in. I believe it was one of the Garcia canisters, too- not BearVault.

I think have a photo of one of the breached cannisters somewhere (I think buried in my text conversation history on my phone). I'll try to find and share it later.
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all of my canisters have gnaw marks on them in various spots. My ursack has teeth indentations from a bear (but was not able to get into it.)
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I saw a Garcia (the heavy black plastic kind) at the HPIC with a large hole chewed through the bottom edge. It was a rental and the renter had admitted he watched a red squirrel do the damage over a three day period. He should have been charged for the cost of a new canister, but was not.
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Old 04-20-2021, 03:56 PM   #51
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I saw a Garcia (the heavy black plastic kind) at the HPIC with a large hole chewed through the bottom edge. It was a rental and the renter had admitted he watched a red squirrel do the damage over a three day period. He should have been charged for the cost of a new canister, but was not.
If the renter was out on a backpacking trip and used and stored the container properly, I'm not sure what reasonable actions the renter could have taken to avoid the squirrel damage. One might try keeping it close to their person to deter the squirrel, however that would seem to not coincide with the general recommendation of storing it at least 100 yards downwind from camp when not using it. Not knowing the specifics of the incident, it's difficult to evaluate potential renter negligence, but it seems plausible there may not have been many actions they could have taken to prevent the damage.
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Old 04-20-2021, 04:08 PM   #52
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I was not on scene, but it was told to me that he admitted that he "watched" the squirrel do the damage over a 3 day period. if that was the case it likely was not 100 yards away from camp. IMO, something could have been done to prevent the damage instead of observing someone else's property get destroyed for the enjoyment of it.
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