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Old 09-04-2016, 10:45 AM   #1
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Lean-to mosquito net setup

We're getting ready for our overnight trip in the high peaks.

Before we pack up the sleeping bags, pads, and mosquito nets we would like to do a trial run of our setup.

Our nets are circular single suspension.

Are lean to heights standard? Are there generally hooks in the ceiling to attach the netting to?

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Old 09-04-2016, 10:54 AM   #2
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There are no hooks in the ceiling and you're not permitted to insert nails/screws, etc into lean-tos. Depending on the lean-to's design, there may be a support beam (log) running the width of the lean-to located at about where your thighs would be when lying down. You could use cord to attach the net's peak to the beam.

Alternately, you may find shelves or pegs (or existing nails) on the side walls. Use them to string up a "ridge-cord" (running from one side-wall to the other) and then attach the net's peak to the ridge-cord. Try to keep this tidy so as not to "clothesline" yourself or other people in the lean-to.

Worst case, use your packs as a prop, resting against the lean-to's back wall, to keep the netting off your face. That trick works (worked?) better with frame-packs.

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Old 09-04-2016, 12:36 PM   #3
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This time of year, you might find you don't need them, especially at night.

Or tent - you'll very likely sleep warmer and better on the ground vs. a hardwood floor.

Note that you can't put up a tent in a shelter.
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Old 09-04-2016, 04:17 PM   #4
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Years ago,
I bought sort of a mini screen tent that would be set up over your sleeping bag.
No nails, it used flexible fiberglass wands.
It covered the head area.
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Old 09-04-2016, 06:00 PM   #5
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I've found that carrying a few lengths of string often comes in handy... Heck, some lean-tos probably will have plenty of string already there left behind by other people who didn't feel like taking it down, but honestly I don't think you'll have many mosquito issues anymore this season barring yet another heat wave.
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:05 AM   #6
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Thanks for the responses.

I saw the regulation about nails/screws but somehow read it as only applying to enclosing the front of the lean-to. Now understand that it applies to any application.

Encouraging that it might not be necessary. But as our first overnight in the back country some others are insistent.

We did a trial setup with some success. A bit challenging to get in while preserving the integrity of our creation ...

Bring lots of string and figure it out. Got it.
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:13 AM   #7
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Plan Ahead and Prepare is the first rule of Leave No Trace, so you're well on your way!

At this time of year, bears and camp hygiene are much bigger things to worry about. You do have a bear cannister right? And you're going to put EVERYTHING smelly in it? And you're going to cook somewhere far away from your campsite?
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:13 AM   #8
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Mr. Pass,
So when is it again that you're going??
Did you pin down your plans yet? I remember some talk about Cascade, maybe Adams...
All hiking? Or are you also paddling?
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:53 AM   #9
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One thing I've done in the past is to just wear a head net. The one I have uses elastic loops that my arms go through, allowing the net to pass over my head. I've never had an issue with a flying critter getting in. On the other hand, that annoying buzzing can only be eradicated by using a set of ear plugs.

That's all for now. Enjoy your trip but, as many have already said, I think most of your mosquito issues won't come to pass due to the cooler evening temperatures.

Until next time...be well.

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Old 09-05-2016, 10:34 AM   #10
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On Saturday, we hiked over Marcy to Skylight and Gray and then returned over Marcy. We encountered no pesky bugs throughout with the notable exception of our return trip over Marcy. Its summit was teeming with small, biting flies. I looked closely at one but it didn't look like either a black fly or mosquito. I asked the Summit Steward (doing a good imitation of a Bavarian knee-slapping dance) but she didn't recognize them either. She added they arrived late in the afternoon and were definitely "biters". We downed our sandwiches and left the windless summit and its unexpected swarm of September pests.
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:04 PM   #11
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Mr. Pass,
So when is it again that you're going??
Did you pin down your plans yet? I remember some talk about Cascade, maybe Adams...
All hiking? Or are you also paddling?
Thanks for asking.

I made a separate post under Hiking to keep this thread on point.
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Old 09-05-2016, 03:43 PM   #12
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We're getting ready for our overnight trip in the high peaks.

Before we pack up the sleeping bags, pads, and mosquito nets we would like to do a trial run of our setup.

Our nets are circular single suspension.

Are lean to heights standard? Are there generally hooks in the ceiling to attach the netting to?

Thanks,
AP
I found a look alike for my sleeping bag mosquito tent that I've had for years.
It's from REI and it's called the REI Garage.
Check it out, It's worked for me.
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Old 09-05-2016, 04:40 PM   #13
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I found a look alike for my sleeping bag mosquito tent that I've had for years.
It's from REI and it's called the REI Garage.
Check it out, It's worked for me.
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Is this the product you're referring to?

Looks cool, especially the fact that you don't need to suspend it.

We've already purchased 2 person circular single suspension nets.

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It reminds me of this:

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Old 09-05-2016, 07:38 PM   #15
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It reminds me of this:
Newbies camping in the Adirondacks in September:

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Old 09-06-2016, 10:56 AM   #16
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I have made a diy version of this kind of net using no-see-um mesh to be used in leantos in the buggy spring and summer months. I have never had a problem finding nails to string it up with.

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On Saturday, we hiked over Marcy to Skylight and Gray and then returned over Marcy. We encountered no pesky bugs throughout with the notable exception of our return trip over Marcy. Its summit was teeming with small, biting flies. I looked closely at one but it didn't look like either a black fly or mosquito. I asked the Summit Steward (doing a good imitation of a Bavarian knee-slapping dance) but she didn't recognize them either. She added they arrived late in the afternoon and were definitely "biters". We downed our sandwiches and left the windless summit and its unexpected swarm of September pests.
I was on a summit in northern Vermont and we encountered the same bugs! They did not play fair at all: they descended en masse, kept biting until killed AND were completely undeterred by DEET.

We were chased off the windless summit as well.

Is it winter yet?
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Is this the product you're referring to?

Looks cool, especially the fact that you don't need to suspend it.

We've already purchased 2 person circular single suspension nets.

Mark
That's the one, AP.
I think it comes in a two person capacity also.
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It reminds me of this:

The same conception.
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Old 09-19-2016, 05:43 PM   #20
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I was on a summit in northern Vermont and we encountered the same bugs! They did not play fair at all: they descended en masse, kept biting until killed AND were completely undeterred by DEET.

We were chased off the windless summit as well.

Is it winter yet?
We were bothered by no-see-ums on a recent ADK summit. Much smaller than black flies, fierce short-term itch. First time I've been bothered by them during the day; more typically they come out at disk and dawn.
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