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Old 02-22-2021, 07:40 PM   #38
Edb 46 er
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Originally Posted by Wldrns View Post
I understand that at one time, 1960's and 1970's anyway, Grumman manufactured 17' canoes in 3 different weights, "lightweight", "standard", and "Camp" weights. Hull metal thickness of 0.040, 0.050, and 0.060 inch. I don't think they offer canoes in those choices any more. In 1973 I bought a lightweight model that I used with family (wife, 2 kids and a dog) quite a bit and even went on more than a few solo trips with it in the Adirondacks. I learned a lot about canoeing in that metal craft. Being extra lightweight, it came manufactured with extra ribs for better structural integrity. I still have it and it is still in excellent shape, though I don't really use it anymore. I believe camp weight went mostly to youth camps (including BSA) where they were better suited to survive beginner's abuse. Anyway, those 17 footers are the canoes that BSA had and I guided on more than a couple of trips from Lows to the Oswegatchie and elsewhere with both boys and their older scoutmasters surviving the portages. Oh, and in addition to the many blowdown log jams as the pics show, we lost count after some 70 beaver dams to cross over.
My Grumman is definitely the.060'' model. It is indestructible. The family I purchased it from was selling because they sold their camp on 4th lake and didn't need it anymore. They told me a story of how the canoe came untied from their vehicle while driving and blew off the top of the vehicle damaging the stern, crinkling it some. But it tracks fine and no holes or cracks. So, $399.00 later down the road I drove in my van with it.

I read about the blowdown in Montcalm's blessed high water that took him over most of the dams, good for him. I might just rent a lighter canoe from Mt. Man over in Oldforge to save myself the task.

it sounds like you miss the days of guiding the scouts, it must have been great to be able to be part of so many young lives and creating life-long memories. I personally never had the opportunity to join the scouts and enjoy group camping and wilderness excursions but I did enjoy certain things in my youth others may not have been able to do.

Thinking of buying a reflector oven from a small company called Old Scout and bake some rolls and maybe a small pie to boot. They remind me of the old Boy Scout videos you can find on Youtube, they as well used the old Grumman canoes, mostly out of The Boundary Waters Canoe area though.
Two Beavers

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