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Jwojcik1990 07-25-2021 09:44 PM

Northern Pike Wilderness Trip Advice
 
I have tried to do some research on my own, but figured it would not hurt to ask here as well. I am looking to make a 7-8 day canoe trip with the main focus being Northern Pike. I know most of the remote ponds and wilderness of the Adirondacks contain Brookies, and those are certainly fun to catch, but I just get such a kick out of catching Northern. I just got back from a trip in the Saranac Lakes Wild Forest area with my girlfriend and it was great finding Northern in a few of those ponds, but it just was not the "remote" experience I am looking for. Does anyone out there happen to have advice on where I could find more of a wilderness setting that contains Northern Pike? I would really appreciate any help or hints!

Cold River Bob 07-26-2021 05:58 AM

Raquett river at Axton landing all the way to the falls

MoodyBlues 07-26-2021 08:41 AM

spy lake is a nice paddle, has a couple good campsites, and lots of northerns...

Jwojcik1990 07-26-2021 12:45 PM

Those both do look really nice! Thank you! Spy Lake has now re-caught my interest. I had it on a list of places I wanted to check out and forgot all about it. How is the fishing on the West side of the put-in, in the big bay? If I remember I read something about Tiger Muskie in there?

forgedin78 07-26-2021 05:42 PM

Spy lake has lots of chain pickerel, but never heard of anyone catching a northern in there. Also, since covid began the gate has remained closed with a posted sign on it. So I would plan on accessing from up the outlet, which should be doable with water levels this high.

Buckladd 07-27-2021 08:28 AM

Never done it (I'd love to), but I've heard the Beaver River impoundments from Stillwater Res to Crogan are good pike waters, with plenty of camping (and portages) along he way.

MoodyBlues 07-27-2021 08:57 AM

the road is open to spy lake. if the gate is closed, it's not locked, just close it when you're done. i went left from the launch, just past the island seemed to be the hotspot, for me. we went down the outlet, in high water, thinking we could get to mud lake, but it was impassable, without a lot of walking in muck...

Jwojcik1990 07-27-2021 11:04 AM

@Buckladd I just took a look at the Beaver River Canoe Route, that looks like a really interesting idea as well! Some promising waters all along the way with some fun looking paddling. Thank you for bringing that to my attention!

@Moodyblues Thank you for the info! I definitely plan to make a trip there soon to scout it out a bit more. I would not mind wading through the muck and mire to do a little exploring.

Justin 07-28-2021 04:21 PM

Pine Pond has pike.
Sorry not saying which Pine Pond, but itís about a 2 mile hike. ;)

Jwojcik1990 07-28-2021 06:29 PM

@Justin A name and a distance should be enough for me to figure it out, thank you!

Schultzz 07-28-2021 11:10 PM

https://www.adirondack.net/tag/business/northern-pike/

This info is available from Google. Knowing where is a good start. Catching them is another topic.

Wldrns 07-29-2021 07:51 AM

i grew up lliterally on the Black River near Lowville many years ago, where I spent my youth with a floating dock and small boat. A couple of buddies and I went fishing for pike, walleyes, and bass nearly every day. I used to know all the favored hot spots for pike, all the submerged logs and expansive weed bed hide-outs back then from Lyons Falls almost all the way to Carthage. In more recent years, paddling through while canoe race training, I don't even recognize the river any more. There are none of the old weed beds at all in existance where they once grew thick. I suppose the river is cleaner now with fewer farms polluting, that may be the reason. I've not tried fishing to any degree recently, but have threatened to try again.

Schultzz 07-29-2021 11:32 AM

Many years ago I found fossilized remains embedded in the bed rock beside a section of the Black River but most of my pike success was either in the St Lawrence or a tributary. They would lie in wait 20 feet down where the weeds could hide them as they waited to ambush. A Johnson's Silver Spoon could get them to bite.

EagleCrag 07-29-2021 12:06 PM

I just returned a week ago from visiting a friend's camp on Soft Maple Reservoir which lies along the Beaver River Canoe Route. I didn't bring a fishing pole but the water looked like great smallmouth water and my host indicated that they do stock Tiger Muskies in there. Not sure about pike.

mgc 07-29-2021 07:23 PM

I grew up in the area and frankly, aside from Middle and out into Tupper, the park does not offer the best pike fishing in the area. For that you should thrash any water that leads to the St. Lawrence and the Saint Lawrence. The rivers all hold lot's of pike as well as muskie. I don't like to give away my honey holes and even the statement that water leading into the big river feels like I'm letting the cat out of the bag but if it's pike you want, they are there . They love the weedy beds and channels in these rivers. Because you can work the current with them I have always had the best luck with Mepps spinners, the bigger the better. Fancy colors are not necessary but they work. Silver Aglia's are my favorite for some of these cloudy spots. Cast to edge of the weeds near a drop off and wait for them to hit. If you do use the big Aglies, don't be surprised to hook into sunken wood. There are old sunken boom logs hidden in some of the holes. Muskie are also around. I had one take my spinner on the lower end of the *** river near *** and brought it to 10 feet from my canoe before it casually spit my lure out...casually, sput, done. It did me a favor. There was no way that thing was going to end up in my canoe without someone ending up in the water. it was massive.

Schultzz 07-29-2021 08:45 PM

While not fishing for them and not having the proper leader I have had several strikes from Muskies. It's like pulling a log in until they see your boat or you and then they bite through the line and are gone.

JimVroman 08-01-2021 03:55 PM

Pike and muskies have gripping teeth, not cutting teeth.

Wldrns 08-01-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JimVroman (Post 286618)
Pike and muskies have gripping teeth, not cutting teeth.

Well, after catching literally hundreds of northern pike (my buddies and I kept count each season) on the Black River while I was growing up, I quickly learned you never want to fish for pike without using a steel leader. I can't tell you how many of my father's antique lures I lost in the early days due to pike"s "gripping teath" cutting the line before I learned my lesson.

Schultzz 08-01-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wldrns (Post 286619)
Well, after catching literally hundreds of northern pike (my buddies and I kept count each season) on the Black River while I was growing up, I quickly learned you never want to fish for pike without using a steel leader. I can't tell you how many of my father's antique lures I lost in the early days due to pike"s "gripping teath" cutting the line before I learned my lesson.

Well stated Paul. A Pike or Muskie will BITE YOU OUT OF ANGER if YOUR HAND GETS TOO CLOSE AND IT DOESN'T "GRIP" LIKE A BEAR, IT SLICES THE LIVINI S___ OUT OF YOUR HAND BECAUSE THE TEETH ARE LIKE RAZOR BLADES AND SHARP AS HELL. It will slice right through 50 lb line if you do not have a substantial leader. There are rows upon rows of sharp predator teeth so the effect is like a razor blade even if the teeth look like they are only for gripping.

mgc 08-02-2021 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Schultzz (Post 286620)
Well stated Paul. A Pike or Muskie BITE SLICES THE LIVINIG S___ OUT OF YOUR HAND

Amen to that....Pike, pickerel, muskie...if you want to catch these buggers use a leader and watch your hands. If they get you, you will know it. There will be blood (your blood) everywhere.


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