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Buckladd 07-08-2020 08:31 PM

Every year there are a couple killed in the Hogtown area by motorists. I've only heard of one so far this year, which is surprising with all the traffic up there. Then again, that may be keeping the snakes at bay. Planning to go berry picking on Buck in a few weeks, which I do pretty much every year and have yet to see a rattler.

Schultzz 07-08-2020 11:03 PM

Buck, don't forget to look for signs of bear. They love berry season and come out at night in force. In the MRP I often see Moose and Bear tracks on the edge of the road.

daxs 07-09-2020 07:44 PM

lots of rattlers in the pine barrens too

wiiawiwb 07-26-2020 11:07 AM

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For the second time in three weeks, I came across a Timber rattler...up close and personal. For decades, I've hiked and backpacked in the Adirondacks. Why, suddenly, the recent encounters?

This one was near the Millman Pond/Greenland Pond junction. I was staying at a leanto on Fishbrook and decided to head to Greenland Pond to poke around in that area. On my way back, I came to the junction of the Millman Pond trail and about 100' toward Fishbrook the rattler lay stretched out on the trail.

The darn thing was nearly impossible to see until I was almost on it. I was closest with my buddy behind. It rattled and I stopped, then I kept my eyes fixed on its head as it was upset. I was near the business end. I "guessed" it was ~5' while my friend said longer. In either case it was big, camouflaged, and in no mood for visitors. It crawled into the brush and I tried to get a picture before it did so but wasn't too successful as I was only interested in where its head was.

Clearly, this rattler, and the other one a few weeks ago, just wanted to be left alone and chose to exit when it could. That doesn't change the fact that I couldn't initially see either and got way too close for comfort. If I was motoring along, I might have stepped on it.

Three weeks ago, I said I would always wear the SP gaiters when in the Lake George region. When I went to Fishbrook, I rationalized that saving a small amount of weight was more important as lightning never strikes twice. Shame on me.

Woodly 07-26-2020 11:45 AM

Lightning does strike twice, so will a rattler. Interesting you've seen two now and recently.
Nice you got a photo for proof. I think forgetting that they might be there is easy. How many times since February have you forgotten to put on a mask when you got out of the car only to remember ten ft away? Its just not something we are use to doing.

Buckladd 07-27-2020 09:21 PM

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Buck, don't forget to look for signs of bear. They love berry season and come out at night in force. In the MRP I often see Moose and Bear tracks on the edge of the road.

Indeed, but in nearly 50 years of living, hiking, berry picking and hunting on and around Buck Mt., I've yet to see a bear in Hogtown. We have seen tracks a few times. Only a few are taken in the Norther Zone part of Washington County. Some years, none.

The only rattler I've ever seen was on Lake Champlain, when paddling South Bay back in 2007.

Northcountryman 08-15-2020 11:19 AM

I dont believe there are any Rattlers in the northern zone although I could be wrong, too cold.

Woodly 08-27-2020 08:30 PM

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I dont believe there are any Rattlers in the northern zone although I could be wrong, too cold.

There were at one time-Upper Jay has an appropriately named, Rattlesnake Knob.

Buckladd 08-28-2020 07:47 AM

They just found one in a cemetery in Glens Falls, and another got killed on a city street not far from there. There's rumors of a third.

Woodly 08-28-2020 08:08 AM

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They just found one in a cemetery in Glens Falls, and another got killed on a city street not far from there. There's rumors of a third.

That's interesting since normally it is said they only travel a kilometer or so from their den to hunt.

Schultzz 08-28-2020 12:16 PM

If you ever get to speak with someone who works in a poison center they are reluctant to say much but they can tell you where rattlesnakes have been reported or have bitten people and you might find it hard to believe but they can be found almost anywhere even in large cities. Of course they don't want this knowledge to reach the local media.

wiiawiwb 08-28-2020 12:48 PM

I always knew Timber Rattlers existed in the Tongue Mtn Range area and ran across one 3 years ago within a quarter mile from the Clay Meadows bridge. The two recent encounters were up close and personal. Strike-zone personal with a big, fat rattler.

I will wear snake gaiters (Turtleskin) whenever I'm in the Lake George area. That's a bit of comfort. Still, they are totally camouflaged and can be in the grass right next to the trail you're walking and you'll never see them.

During the 2010-2019 decade, in the US more people were killed by venomous snakes than by grizzly. That's after eliminating people who owned venomous snakes or those who used them in a religious ceremony (crazy).

The simple truth is I'd rather be hiking in grizzly territory than in an area with Timber Rattlers. At least I think I'd see it coming and would have some chance of self defense rather than a quick strike and envenomation from something you didn't know was even there.

Northcountryman 08-28-2020 03:19 PM

What are snake gaiters? That’s sounds pretty good , would like to get them for protection if possible

Woodly 08-28-2020 04:28 PM

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What are snake gaiters? Thatís sounds pretty good , would like to get them for protection if possible

Price wise they begin at $40.00 and go to $200, maybe more. Try eBay or Amazon, Sportsman's Guide.
OLD military leather ones work too BUT many aren't very tall.
I prefer tall leather boots but there also are nylon Snake Boots.

wiiawiwb 08-28-2020 05:04 PM

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What are snake gaiters? That’s sounds pretty good , would like to get them for protection if possible

We use regular gaiters for lower-leg protection from rain or bushes. Snake gaiters are worn over the lower leg, just like regular gaiters, except they're built to be either bite resistant or bite proof.

There are several options out these some of which look like a medieval warrior going into battle. I chose Turtleskins which are by far the lightest ones out there and, per their website, are "Tested with actual, live rattlesnakes".

If I were buying again, I would buy the husky rather than the regular as they are a little longer.

https://turtleskin.com/default/outdo...rotection.html

TRAILOGRE53 09-01-2020 11:26 AM

FOund this .......
 
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FOund this shed skin 2 days ago on my run in southern orange coun ty NY

almost 5 feet long

Woodly 09-01-2020 12:11 PM

Thats a nice find.

TRAILOGRE53 09-01-2020 12:13 PM

Making ...
 
Making a hatband out of it

Woodly 09-01-2020 03:49 PM

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Making a hatband out of it

I was going to suggest that but thought better of it. I hope it works out.

Buckladd 09-01-2020 08:26 PM

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That's interesting since normally it is said they only travel a kilometer or so from their den to hunt.

They're pretty sure they were transported, either intentionally or unintentionally. The other one was in poor health and died.


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