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  • Kevin
    **BANNED**
    • Nov 2003
    • 5857

    #1

    Macomb (via ridge / bushwhack from Rt 9/I87)

    [Pictures]

    Today's weather couldn't have been better (for late January). Temps at 7AM (start) were about 5F, stayed relatively steady throughout the day. Sunshine until late afternoon. There was about a foot of snow at the trail head, maybe 2-3 feet above 3,500'.

    I was to meet up with several 46ers hiking Macomb from an old snowmobile trail that started at Route 9, ran under I87 near the border patrol/rest stop and towards Macomb/S Dix for about another 3 miles along West Mill Brook. At one point you continue to head Northwest, leaving the trail/road (that starts heading West and Southwest). This route will take you to one of the shoulders for Macomb. (see topo)

    After some muddling around for 30 minutes we found the correct lookout point and started our ascent (see pics from the shoulder). Several nice views of the smaller mountains, and as you headed up a ways you could see S Dix (Carson) and Macomb, as well as the ridge line leading to its summit.

    I didn't do a lot of trail breaking (did some, and looking back, it just happened to be on the worse part of the trail ). There were plenty of spruce traps to be had, I fell 3+ feet into one and took me a few minutes to get out. This was my first true bushwhack to a summit, but I wasn't looking to experience EVERYTHING on my first try!

    We were making decent progress, but my body was slowing down. By time I made summit I was hiking for 2 minutes, stopping and I could hear my heart beating in my ears. Add to this the exhaustion of pecking spruce branches, occassional issues with my snow shoe bindings, problems with finding the 'right fit' in my new jacket, etc... and I was one unhappy hiker by time I made summit. I shot my photos and headed out after maybe 10 minutes on top. There was very little breeze and the views were great, but I was perpetually hungry (sandwich and trail food wasn't enough ) and starting to feel the hike taking its toll on me physically and mentally. This brought back memories of hiking Skylight in a day last winter. By time I made Lake Arnold on the return trip I would have paid $100 for a shuttle home.

    So anyway, we made our way back down, making good but not great progress. Changed out of snow shoes into crampons for some of the slicker spots (which helped a lot, thanks for the suggestion Mike). Death march began midway back to the cars. I only remember thinking how much I want to sit in my warm vehicle and eat McDonalds. Began at 7AM, summit at 1:45PM (15 minutes shy of my turnaround time), and arrived back at my vehicle at 6:30PM. 11.5 hours for about 12 miles round trip. LONG DAY!

    On my trip home I listened to no music and reflected on the day. My inintial impressions were "I won't ever do THAT (bushwhack a summit) again". This was immediately followed by reassuring pain. lol Not that I didn't enjoy parts of the hike, but the incessant slapping of the branches, blow down, and breaking trail (a guarantee if you're whacking in the winter) all painted a rather gloomy picture of what is supposed to be pleasure-filled and fun.

    While I'm willing to bet I could 'get used to it', this begs the question "SHOULD I get used to it?" Will I just become desensitized to the negatives in light of only a few positives? I got to thinking about terms like masochism. Still can't think of a reason I will ever bushwhack another summit, especially when there's already a much easier trail or herd path to the same spot/goal (the top). Maybe I could see it as a challenge? Well, maybe I could just carry 200 pounds of sawdust with me to each summit and be the first 'sawdust 46er'. I'm not being cute, I really was having this discussion with myself today!

    So while I knock the whole bushwhacking a summit thing, I did gain an appreciation of the hiking pioneers whose only route to the top was doing what we did today. It definitely takes a certain sense of commitment, and insanity that I just may not have...

    [BTW, I believe all the people in attendence were: Joe (adk-46r), Mike, Phil, Christine, Sean/Shawn (sp?), and myself]
    Last edited by Kevin; 01-26-2005, 11:28 AM.
  • adk-46r
    IT'S GRACE & CARSON PEAKS
    • Nov 2003
    • 179

    #2
    We are all a little insane. It is trips like this that gives us a little temporary sanity. While I might not hike today or tomorrow, I will do it again next week. Just looking at the pictures that you took remind me why I enjoy my insanity. Even the pain in my shoulder was forgoten when I veiwed your pics. While there are more traveled routes we got the treat of veiws that the thousands of the hikers that hike the Adirondacks will never experience. Trips like these are an aquired taste. While it may not be appealing at the time you will find something about the trip to reflect on and decide to give it another try. Soon you will become addicted. Look at Neil"s trips lately. It is one disaster after another but yet He returns. Some summer trips on established trails can be as insane as bushwacks in the middle of winter. By the way, I wish I had brought a camera with me. That picture of you in the big spruce trap was priceless. I am sure Redhawk and some others on this forum would of paid big bucks to see it. Overall with the pain,cold and bushwack I had a good day with some good people. That's why I put up with this insanity.
    IT IS NOT A PARK
    IT IS THE ADIRONDACKS
    I WAS BORN HERE
    IT IS MY HOME
    IT IS WHERE I WORK

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    • Skyclimber
      SAFE CLIMBING
      • Dec 2003
      • 1086

      #3
      Now didn't you have just a little bit of fun? With deep snow, spruce traps, great weather? Sounds like you did overall. The pics were spectacular. Glad you made it.

      Yes Joe, the trailless in Winter are just like this experience no matter what route you may take sometimes. But always exciting to do them from a new angle.
      "It is easier to become a Forty-Sixer than to be one. The art of the being is to keep one's sense of wonder after the excitement of the game is over."

      Paul Jamieson Class of '58

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      • Neil
        Admin

        • May 2004
        • 6129

        #4
        Originally posted by adk-46r
        Look at Neil"s trips lately. It is one disaster after another but yet He returns.
        Redfield? I didn't get sick did I? Who the heck is Allen?
        Redfield was as close to a disaster as I ever want to get. As for Allen, I beg to differ, it was anything but. It could have turned into one though.
        Kevin, the important thing is to know what you don't like doing and then just avoid doing that. Only one way to find out though.
        Oh, and Joe, I really appreciate your admiration. However it wasn't really necessary to capitalize 'he'.
        The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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        • adk-46r
          IT'S GRACE & CARSON PEAKS
          • Nov 2003
          • 179

          #5
          Originally posted by Neil
          Redfield? I didn't get sick did I? Who the heck is Allen?
          Redfield was as close to a disaster as I ever want to get. As for Allen, I beg to differ, it was anything but. It could have turned into one though.
          Kevin, the important thing is to know what you don't like doing and then just avoid doing that. Only one way to find out though.
          Oh, and Joe, I really appreciate your admiration. However it wasn't really necessary to capitalize 'he'.
          Neil, I did not mean it as a total disaster. Just that even though things don't go smoothly doesn't stop you from going back and doing it again. i alSo nEveR pruf Reed Mi posT soo I due half da OkashoNel tYpoGraFiKel err
          IT IS NOT A PARK
          IT IS THE ADIRONDACKS
          I WAS BORN HERE
          IT IS MY HOME
          IT IS WHERE I WORK

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          • Willie
            46er #5193W
            • Nov 2003
            • 240

            #6
            Kevin, I remember you making similar comments after your Skylight trip last year. But you came back for more ... and you will again. Why? Who knows. I'm sure even Freud couldn't explain it.

            Nice photos.
            Last edited by Willie; 01-26-2005, 09:30 AM.

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            • Rivet
              Likes to hike
              • Feb 2004
              • 626

              #7
              Originally posted by Willie
              Why? Who knows. I'm sure even Freud couldn't explain it.
              Maybe the mountains remind him of his mother.
              My hiking blog

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              • Mavs00
                I am the sith
                • Nov 2007
                • 46

                #8
                Originally posted by Kevin
                ........ My inintial impressions were "I won't ever do THAT (bushwhack a summit) again". This was immediately followed by reassuring pain. lol Not that I didn't enjoy parts of the hike, but the incessant slapping of the branches, blow down, and breaking trail (a guarantee if you're whacking in the winter) all painted a rather gloomy picture of what is supposed to be pleasure-filled and fun.
                I'm envious as hell. The physical will go away, leaving you with a wonderfull sense of acomplishment and the freedom that "going your own way" provides. Congrats.
                "I can feel your anger. It gives you focus. It makes you stronger. " Supreme Chancellor

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                • Kevin
                  **BANNED**
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 5857

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rivet
                  Maybe the mountains remind him of his mother.
                  Wow, that's it!






                  Skylight, while similar in results, was a pain in the ass for a different set of reasons (mostly me being REALLY out of shape and feeling inadequate in the face of so many in-shape 46ers in the group doing their winter rounds). Yesterday's trip was less a matter of me not keeping up (I did for most of the hike) than it was of objectively looking at the situation and repeatedly saying to myself "this sucks". The views were the ONLY saving grace on this trip. I barely had time to talk with any of the other hikers because I was either too far behind or the sound of snow shoes made it difficult to hear yourself think. Too bad we didn't have more time for dinner afterwards, Mike especially seemed like an interesting person to talk with. Fortunately I get chances to hike with Joe now, so I've gotten to know him quite well (yes, you ARE insane! ).

                  I feel that if I were in prime shape I would have enjoyed this more, but I'm not in that level of fitness and I'm in the best shape of my life. (??) I can't commit to climbing these once or twice a week (there are other places in the ADKs to hike) and I loath gyms. Looks like I'm stuck being slightly lame .

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                  • Kevin
                    **BANNED**
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 5857

                    #10
                    Now, with all that said, I don't regret the trip and I'm very pleased with myself for getting off that mountain in decent spirits and not hurting nearly as much as I have from other hikes. But I use a simple formula to measure whether I'll ever do something again -- "Was the benefit of doing X activity greater than the cost in either emotional or phsical pain/exertion?" This trip fails using that formula.

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                    • Skyclimber
                      SAFE CLIMBING
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 1086

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Kevin
                      Mike especially seemed like an interesting person to talk with.
                      .
                      That he is !!! He's one of the nicest, kindest people you will ever meet. We were hiking partners for 8 years and still the best of friends.
                      Last edited by Skyclimber; 01-26-2005, 03:01 PM.
                      "It is easier to become a Forty-Sixer than to be one. The art of the being is to keep one's sense of wonder after the excitement of the game is over."

                      Paul Jamieson Class of '58

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                      • Kevin
                        **BANNED**
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 5857

                        #12
                        Today I'm not nearly as sore as I would have expected. Guess my body recovers faster than it used to.

                        Another thing that wasn't mentioned was the elevation gain -- this route it's 3,400 feet gained, and most of that is in the last 1.5 miles (making it a very persistently steep approach). This is an extra 1,000+ feet compared to the Elk Lake/slide approach.

                        I had forgotten about that at some point as the hike just seemed unending. Funny how the psychological aspect of hiking can make or break a day.

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                        • redhawk
                          Senior Resident Curmudgeon
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10929

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kevin
                          Today I'm not nearly as sore as I would have expected. Guess my body recovers faster than it used to.

                          Another thing that wasn't mentioned was the elevation gain -- this route it's 3,400 feet gained, and most of that is in the last 1.5 miles (making it a very persistently steep approach). This is an extra 1,000+ feet compared to the Elk Lake/slide approach.

                          I had forgotten about that at some point as the hike just seemed unending. Funny how the psychological aspect of hiking can make or break a day.
                          Did you use the Altimeter on the 130?

                          How was it?
                          "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                          • Kevin
                            **BANNED**
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 5857

                            #14
                            Originally posted by redhawk
                            Did you use the Altimeter on the 130?

                            How was it?
                            Altimeter was dead on, verified with 2 other GPS units (one was a $500 Garmin with full color maps, and another was an eTrex model). What's more important is that my coordinates/position and altimeter readings matched the maps that were uploaded into the device, making it a very reliable means of finding exactly where you are.

                            It was really cool using it the 2 times I did. The path we took was the EXACT path I drew the night before with the Topo software... without ever having done this hike . It's the most obvious and direct route if you look at the topo, so my guess is that someone looked at the maps one day and figured this hike to be the most sensible from the east side of the range.

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