Siamese Ponds Wilderness 2/22/06

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  • WeedHopper
    Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 14

    #1

    Siamese Ponds Wilderness 2/22/06

    We arrived at the Eleventh Mountain trailhead on RT 8 around 11:00. After packing up the gear sleds, donning our snowshoes, and signing in at the trail register, we headed off up the trail. The trail over the hip of Eleventh Mountain was a bare rock, ice, and crusty snow mix. This made dragging sleds almost impossible. At times it seemed that we were stopping to upright the sleds every 30 feet. When the trail turned to mostly rock and ice, we took off the snowshoes and found that a lot easier to maneuver. To put it mildly, everyone was a little on edge when we finally cleared that first climb an hour or so later. To keep the sled from tipping so often, we ended up replacing the backpacks currently on the sleds with lower profile stuff like the food and daypacks. Four hours later, we made the Sacandaga lean-to, which was our destination. Our moods immediately became better. Not only in that we could stop the death march, but this place was just beautiful with the sun was shining off of the partially frozen river and snow pack. We took some quick pictures and set about making camp. There was a good supply of firewood to be had. This combined with the 20-30lbs of cut hardwood that my 18-year-old son dragged in for us, made for a very enjoyable evening in the woods. We set up sleeping bags and such in the lean-to, which was clean and dry. While we were making dinner, a day hiker stopped by on his way out from the Siamese Ponds to chat. Dinner and a full apple pie for desert while sitting around a campfire was a fantastic way to end the day. While sitting by the fire we were treated to a clear night sky lighted by an almost full moon. We woke up to +5 degrees to start the day. After warming up with food and hot drink, we packed up and readied ourselves to repeat the previous days arduous trek. With the gear sleds packed better, the hike out was almost uneventful. The day brought cloudy skies with +15-20 degree temps. We bare booted it out as there was only a thin coat of snow on top of a thin old crusty snow pack. We again had our problems on the eleventh Mountain hip with the sleds, but nothing like on our trip in. It only took us two hours to get back to the trailhead. This was my second winter camping trip and I think that I’ve learned a lot on each of my trips. Next year, I hope to be able to stay out two nights. Enabling me to do a little exploring wherever I end up. All in all a successful outing and great experience.

    Here is a link to the trip pictures.........................
  • redhawk
    Senior Resident Curmudgeon
    • Jan 2004
    • 10929

    #2
    Your son dragged in 30 pounds of wood? Thats a hell of a ascent/descent to haul something up and down.

    I'm assuming that the sled had pipe or pvc or wood poles attached to a harness to keep it from running up on you on the downhill?
    "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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    • WeedHopper
      Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 14

      #3
      I think that I've finally found a way to slow him down!
      He complained a little during the hike over that hill, but once we started that fire up...........he was one proud kid! Not to mention the proud Dad!

      I used 3/4" pvc cut to 5 foot lenghts, to make support arms on the sled. For a harness, we use carbiners to clip the arms to the waist belt on the packs. With good snow cover and proper gear loading, the sleds typically work pretty good. Here's a picture of the Wood Hauler..................
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      • redhawk
        Senior Resident Curmudgeon
        • Jan 2004
        • 10929

        #4
        Originally posted by WeedHopper
        I think that I've finally found a way to slow him down!
        He complained a little during the hike over that hill, but once we started that fire up...........he was one proud kid! Not to mention the proud Dad!

        I used 3/4" pvc cut to 5 foot lenghts, to make support arms on the sled. For a harness, we use carbiners to clip the arms to the waist belt on the packs. With good snow cover and proper gear loading, the sleds typically work pretty good. Here's a picture of the Wood Hauler..................
        That's similar to my setup except my poles are in three sections so they fit easily in the sled when transporting and can also be used a tarp poles. I suggest that you put some aluminum pipe in the two ends that you drill for the cabriners to avoid them breaking in real cold weather. the pvc gets very brittle and snap easy as I and a certain prosecutor found out the hard way.

        The other suggestion I will make is that if you rivet a velcro strap (one that will wrap upon itself) on one of the poles about 1/3-1/2 way down from the "harness" end, you can then cross the poles when using the sled. That will cause it to "turn and follow" more as opposed to swinging wide when you turn.

        I made mine from one of the "Jet Sled" ice fishing sleds, pvc and aluminum. I fastened six eyebolts on it to help tie down my loads and used the two eye bolts on the front to fasten to the aluminum inserts that I drilled the holes in. By using fender washers and three nuts (No not Kevin, Fvrwld and Wildernessphoto) I was able to engineer it so that I had some play in the hook-up to let the attached poles "float" a little. This made it easy to pivot and creates less strain on the poles.

        I think there are pics on the forum somewhere from last year.

        Hawk
        "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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        • ADackR
          livin' it
          • Nov 2003
          • 113

          #5
          i hope nobody minds me asking BUT to the folks that use or are planning on using sleds for winter camping, what are the benefits that you see??

          to each there own but the only benefit that i see (remind you for myself) is going on a very long multi-day trip on flat terrain... other then that having a sled in the winter looks pretty cumbersome..

          infact this weekend i was skiing flowed lands and met 3 guys draging there sleds DOWNHILL!! i couldn't believe what i saw, seeing them drag sleds via snowshoe with gear strapped to the sleds was crazy... oh yeah, their skis were also strapped to the sleds...

          i've found that i can ski in with a pack ready for 4-5 days worth of camping w/out issues... and this is on some challanging terrain....

          just like to hear peoples thoughts and opinions on this..

          thanks

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          • dog
            Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 379

            #6
            Maybe it's just a training for a long trip somewhere out here and a test . Or , if no a challenge around , create it .

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            • fvrwld
              Moderator

              • Mar 2004
              • 2220

              #7
              Some people feel that they can bring more gear if they pack a sled.
              “One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds.” ~ Aldo Leopold

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              • Adkleaddog
                Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 249

                #8
                Originally posted by fvrwld
                Some people feel that they can bring more gear if they pack a sled.
                Especially 30lbs of firewood!!
                "If You Ain't the Lead Dog,
                The Scenery Never Changes"

                (Age Old Yukon Saying)

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