Nippletop Slide......not!

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  • runswithscissors
    Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 144

    #1

    Nippletop Slide......not!

    If there is anyone who has some information pertaining to the location of the Nippletop slide, I would appreciate hearing about it. Why? I missed it! Yup, that's right.....I was all over the main drainage from Elk Pass, but I never found the slide.

    Some details may help solve the mystery or at least help you decide if I was close or couldn't hit the broad side of a barn!

    Friday, 8/26/05 myself and two climbing friends hiked into Elk Pass before turning off trail with the main drainage and descending south (toward Elk Lake). Our goal was the Nippletop Slide. We were encourage to give this one a try after completing ascents via the 1990 Colden slide, Bennies Brook slide, et. al. As a 46er (#4111) with over 30 years of hiking and bushwhacking experience (in the days when Street, Nye, Tabletop and others were true exercises in map, compass and old fashioned, bloody bushwhacking), I felt "qualified" to tackle this adventure.

    Somewhere we read (McMartin?) the approximate distance to the slide from the trailed route was .5 mile with about a 400' descent. We struggled through very thick cover (as thick as I have ever experienced) with a myriad of paths (like the old Nye days), but remained true to suggestions of staying low with the drainage. Thinking that the slide stretched all the way to the edge of the main drainage from the pond at Elk Pass, we continued to descend over 60 minutes down the drainage.

    I honestly thought that 30-40 minutes tops would do it for a .5-mile bushwhack but I extended the time because travel was so difficult and slow.

    We did come across an open rock area about 10 minutes after leaving the Elk Pass Trail, but we were still in the plateau area of the bog and hadn't even reached the beaver dam or started to descend the drainage. We continued on for a total of 1 hour and 12 minutes before deciding to return to Elk Pass. We had even passed the massive vertical cliffs on the Colvin side of the brook that clearly show on the topographical map. The slide is also located further down the drainage than these cliffs and we were well beyond that point when we decided to turn around. It took 1.5 hours to return to the the trail in Elk Pass. We even tried to ascend the side of the mountain further from the brook on the way back in hopes that we would eventually cut across the slide if (by chance) it didn't go all the way to the brook.

    After spending 2.5 hours on the bushwhack and way too much energy, we decided to forgo Nippletop and return over Fish Hawk Cliffs and Indian Head. Great views, but small consolation for the day's real goal.

    So....is there anyone out there who might offer some experienced guidance on how to locate this elusive slide? Where did we go wrong? Were we down far enough in the drainage? We literally had the brook in sight the entire time and could not find the start of the slide. Does the slide actually come all the way down to the brook? We even rock hopped in the brook because it was easier to be in the brook than in the maze of balsams. I'm thinking that we still had farther to go and should have continued to descend the brook, but we were well past the sheer cliff wall mentioned above.

    Can anyone shed any light on this before I return and hopefully not make the same mistake twice? Thanks in advance for any guidance you can offer.

    Pete Hogan
  • mike1889
    wish I was in the Adks
    • Nov 2003
    • 269

    #2
    Pete,

    I got your e-mail but will reply here. I haven't been to this slide since the 1996 hike with Barb Blum and others, and Neil will likely respond as he climbed the slide earlier this summer. I'm guessing you didn't go quite far enough down the drainage to reach the slide. The slide does go all the way down to the bottom of the valley, so if you stay with the stream, it can't be missed. It's fairly wide at the bottom, at least 50 feet. My notes on my first time here (1990) say an easy half hour bushwhack down from Elk Pass to the slide. It took a little longer in 1996 and seemed thicker then. Of course with Floyd in 1999 it is likely much thicker now and may take even longer to reach the slide. I think it's about a 500-foot drop from Elk Pass to the slide, but Neil can probably verify that with his GPS readings. It is a great slide and it's too bad you missed it. Go back and go a little farther and you will find it.

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    • Kevin
      **BANNED**
      • Nov 2003
      • 5857

      #3
      Here's the coordinates of the slide base Neil shared with me:

      Slide Base: UTM 18 593827E 4882463N

      http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18...atum=NAD83&u=4

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      • Glen L
        Member
        • Jan 2004
        • 169

        #4
        Nippletop Slide

        Here are a few notes from my solo climb up the slide on 6-12-03:
        Bushwacked around E side of southernmost beaver pond & followed outlet S on 220 mag bearing. Brook @ this point was too steep & in gorge to rock hop but I noted it was fairly easy going along E bank (just lucky, I guess)
        I found the base of slide after descending for 30 min in an area w/ lots of beaver activity. As I recall the very steep base of slide was just few yds E of brook & visible from it.
        Comparing your post to my experience you surely descended far enough. Perhaps you were distracted by climbing friends & just missed it ?
        To gauge how far I traveled in that 30 min, I was 2:50 to Elk Pass from pkg area via bypass trail, Indian Head & Fish Hawk cliffs. Going out from summit via Dials & Bear Den took 2:45
        Other notes - slide steep @ base & top, some brushy sections, exited top of slide staight up faultline to herdpath N few min to summit
        Give it another try -well worth it !

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