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  • Rik
    H-E-R-O
    • Nov 2004
    • 1000247

    #1

    Haystack/Basin 3/6

    Ok here is our Sunday trip. Kevin, Val, Doug, feel free to add.
    The afformentioned as well as myself, my buddy Eric and his two pals Shawn and Larry met at the Garden just before 7am. Doug (Hillman) had been there for a bit but the rest of us pulled in together. After collecting ourselves and gearing up we headed out at 7am.
    We all wore snowshoes from the start but at least one other hiker was in bareboots without much trouble. It was fairly mild out and the sun was trying to shine between the clouds. The clouds were moving fast and we knew we would be in some wind later in the day. We made good time into JBL and took a short break. Another break at Bushnell lean-to. The trail was nicely packed up to Slant Rock. It began snowing lightly and the wind caused minor drifting in the trail. Doug considered turning back at one point but in the end I think he was glad he kept hiking. We often saw a solo hiker (Steve I think) who was headed to Basin. He planned to take the Shorey trail as did a group of 3 we met right at the junction with the Shorey. They were aiming for Haystack as well and seemed puzzled by our choice to continue up the Phelps trail. Our group had split into two smaller groups with Eric, Shawn, Larry and I in one and Kevin, Val, and Doug in another. At tree line we bundled up and the consensus was to go over Little Haystack staying on the path from cairn to cairn. By this time the winds had to be over 50mph(I'm not good a guessing these things but it was strong). Snow was blowing sideways and the ice crystals, described in a previous thread by Skyclimber, were pelting us. Our first group made summit at about 12:10 and turned right around as there were no views and still work to be done. We met the second group on Little Haystack where they decided to turn back. We regrouped down in the trees and made a plan to head towards Basin. Kevin and Val decided to head over the Shorey while the five remaining pushed on to Basin. The start of the Shorey was blown in but had been tracked out earlier. There was quite a bit of snow between Haystack and Basin. There were windblown tracks going up Basin as well and we soon ran into Steve again coming down from Basin. He said conditions on the summit were pretty wild. I think he headed over the Shorey and caught up with Kevin and Val. We made slow progress up Basin and I didn't check the time when we summitted. Again it was extremely windy and snowing. We had planned to descend the other side of Basin and whack down Chicken Coop Brook but in such harsh conditions with almost no visibility we decided it best to follow our tracks back to the Shorey. Everyones tracks from earlier were blown in when we got there. We climbed the hill on the Shorey trail and now I know why people complain about it as it did feel like a lot of work to get "down" off the mountains. The butt sliding on the opposite side made it worth the work. When we got back to the Phelps trail there was a couple inches of snow covering our tracks from earlier. At Slant Rock we regrouped again and then took short breaks at Bushnell and JBL on the way out. Saw several people with sleds coming in to camp as we walked the last few miles. Also caught up with one from the group of three we met early in the day at the Phelps/Shorey junction. He was looking very tired and needed to lean on a tree while he asked us how much further. He was just before the junction with the Southside trail so just over a half mile to go. He was moving pretty slow and Eric walked with him a bit while three of us went to the Garden and told his party that he was almost there. Doug was a little ways back at this point. We got to the register at 5:55pm. Larry and Shawn head to the Noonmark while Eric and I changed our cloths and made sure Doug made it out. We stopped at the Noonmark where we saw Kevin and Val getting ready to leave and Larry and Shawn stuffing their faces.
    Great day out with everyone. This was #43 and 44 for Eric in his first round of the 46. He has just Cliff and Seward to finish.
    Die Free and Live
  • Skyclimber
    SAFE CLIMBING
    • Dec 2003
    • 1086

    #2
    WOW! What an adventure you had. I was so intriqued by reading your report. It was so detailed. Life-Like.

    Sounds like the winds were pretty much at their strongest. That's why I love Haystack in Winter so much, because of the challenge of the winds to get to the Summit. Doing Haystack and Basin in one Winter's Day is quite the feat. I'm glad that you made it to each of the summits. Even though you didn't have a view, I'm sure your sense of accomplishment was view enough!

    So were the winds stronger on Little Haystack than Haystack itself? They usually are.

    You must be close to finishing now?
    "It is easier to become a Forty-Sixer than to be one. The art of the being is to keep one's sense of wonder after the excitement of the game is over."

    Paul Jamieson Class of '58

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    • Rik
      H-E-R-O
      • Nov 2004
      • 1000247

      #3
      That's why I love Haystack in Winter so much, because of the challenge of the winds to get to the Summit.
      It was amazing! We kept talking about it with big grins for the rest of the day. The winds on Basin were nearly as severe but of course there isn't as far to travel above the trees as on Haystack.

      So were the winds stronger on Little Haystack than Haystack itself? They usually are.
      Yup! Shawn lifted his goggles and they blew right off the mountain!

      You must be close to finishing now?
      I still need the Dix range.
      Die Free and Live

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      • Rik
        H-E-R-O
        • Nov 2004
        • 1000247

        #4
        Even though you didn't have a view, I'm sure your sense of accomplishment was view enough!
        A view would have been great but certainly not necessary. This was my third time up Basin and I still don't know what it looks like from up there!
        Die Free and Live

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        • Skyclimber
          SAFE CLIMBING
          • Dec 2003
          • 1086

          #5
          Originally posted by Rik
          A view would have been great but certainly not necessary. This was my third time up Basin and I still don't know what it looks like from up there!
          It's worth the reclimb come this Summer. It's absolutely beautiful!
          "It is easier to become a Forty-Sixer than to be one. The art of the being is to keep one's sense of wonder after the excitement of the game is over."

          Paul Jamieson Class of '58

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          • Neil
            Admin

            • May 2004
            • 6129

            #6
            Sounds wild. Absolutely wild and life affirming. I thought about you folks all day yesterday. Reading about it is the next best thing to having been there (allthough a very distant second).

            Do you think Eric will want to do Cliff on Sunday?
            The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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            • fvrwld
              Moderator

              • Mar 2004
              • 2220

              #7
              Eventhough I didn't make the summit I had a great time. It was awesome to experience such extreme conditions. I haven't experienced such wind since I was on a cruise during hurricaine Bertha. For me, the ambience created by the conditions well made up for the lack of views.

              Because of the high winds (which actually knocked me over a couple of times) along with the icy summit of little Haystack we thought it was best to turn back. In retrospect we thought it would've been best to change to crampons before the windy summit. I have no regrets though. Even if I did its better to regret turning around than not turning around.

              It was a beautiful wintery day and a fun hike. The but-slides on the way out were some of the best. I had a great time.

              BTW, if anyone finds a little blue chamois towel its mine. it blew out of my pocket on Little Haystack. i figure its on Dial or Nippletop Mountain now.
              “One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds.” ~ Aldo Leopold

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              • Rik
                H-E-R-O
                • Nov 2004
                • 1000247

                #8
                Do you think Eric will want to do Cliff on Sunday?
                He will but most likely will be somewhere in the Dixes with me!

                Eventhough I didn't make the summit I had a great time. It was awesome to experience such extreme conditions.
                I must add what respect I have for those that chose to turn around yesterday where they did. I think that is a real tough decision to make after walking over 8 miles towards a destination and being so close. I have no doubt that they could have made summit had they chose to but admire their decision making. To still be satisfied with the day regardless of the summit is all the more commendable. Hats off!

                BTW, if anyone finds a little blue chamois towel its mine. it blew out of my pocket on Little Haystack. i figure its on Dial or Nippletop Mountain now.
                That must have been what flew in front of the car on the northway near exit 29!
                Die Free and Live

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                • Kevin
                  **BANNED**
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 5857

                  #9
                  Were this climb done last winter I would have crawled on my chest to the summit out of peak bagger fever. Having been on Haystack on a PERFECT day last summer there was really no motivation for me to take any more chances in those conditions. Haystack will be there next time (and with some of the best views in the dacks). I may even be able to stay on top for more than 10 seconds.

                  Now, that's not to say being in those conditions isn't 'fun'. Being a weather nut I love extremes. The winds yesterday rivaled the winds atop Marcy last March. About 50 mph and 70-80mph gusts. NEARLY enough to blow you over, even with extra effort and precaution. What end up turning me around was the cold/exposure from waiting for the first group to return to Little Haystack to hear if they made it, and my goggles freezing. Tough to see through a thin layer of ice. I kept them in my jacket for the whole trip, but they were still wet and fogged when I pulled them out below tree line. As Val said, we really needed crampons for safety and it was just fierce enough and cold enough atop Little Haystack that it would have required climbing back to treeline to equip them. The snow pellets were like a sandblaster in the wind. My face mask covered most of my face but a sliver on my forehead which was getting beaten. By time I made treeline my fingers and toes were pretty cold despite having good winter gear. Handwarmers and the hike out helped to warm things back up.

                  Congrats to the other folks who did make it... this was very challenging hike!

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                  • Kevin
                    **BANNED**
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 5857

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rik
                    ...we soon ran into Steve again coming down from Basin. He said conditions on the summit were pretty wild. I think he headed over the Shorey and caught up with Kevin and Val.
                    Steve did catch up to us right at the top of the shortcut. He 'joined' us for the rest of the way out and was great company. Congrats to him on his 43rd winter summit. He had Emmons, Donaldson, and Seward left amd was going to try for them the last weekend of eligibility this winter.

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                    • Mavs00
                      I am the sith
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 46

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rik
                      A view would have been great but certainly not necessary. This was my third time up Basin and I still don't know what it looks like from up there!
                      It's my favorite view. I've been there 4 times now and had bluebird views 3 times and I think there were decent views on the other time, but I was to busy running for my life avoiding the lightning crahing down around us to enjoy them (Right Doug).

                      Doug sure has had some memerable trips up Basin. Rik, you'll HAVE to go for trip number 4, it's the type of view that makes you want to recite poetry or something
                      "I can feel your anger. It gives you focus. It makes you stronger. " Supreme Chancellor

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                      • hillman1
                        skiing demi-god
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 558

                        #12
                        I'll be getting back up Basin this summer. I actually told the story about my trip up there. It was wierd, I haven't been back there since I finished my 46 with you guys, and I remembered all kinds of stuff. When we were in the col between haystack and basin, I remember sitting there eating bad gorp, and talking with everyone about finishing. I remember that ladder, and thinking how maybe we should have turned back instead of risking that lightning. It really was a flash of remembrance. I still wish I would have gotten haystack yesterday, but after a month of no hiking, my body is way out of tune. I changed my shirt on the flat before little haystack, and I must say, 50 mile an hour snow pellets are hard on the nipples. I actually think the wind may have been even harder, because at times, it was hard for me to stand.
                        Last edited by hillman1; 03-08-2005, 04:56 PM.

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                        • Kevin
                          **BANNED**
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 5857

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hillman1
                          I still wish I would have gotten haystack yesterday
                          Me three. I forgot to mention in my previous post that this was the closest I've ever been to a summit and didn't climb it.

                          I'll second Tim's post - Basin has some really nice views. In the summer adding it to a Haystack hike isn't too bad. Even Saddleback with the other 2 is okay if you're in shape for it.



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                          • Neil
                            Admin

                            • May 2004
                            • 6129

                            #14
                            Aw, c'mon. You guys are wimps! I would have hiked Haystack on Sunday wearing my usual winter hiking outfit: a thong. (OK Doug, maybe I would have put duct tape across my nipples in deference to the 60 mph ice pellets.)
                            The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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                            • Kevin
                              **BANNED**
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 5857

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Neil
                              Aw, c'mon. You guys are wimps! I would have hiked Haystack on Sunday wearing my usual winter hiking outfit: a thong.
                              No hockey mask? Something tells me a thong and hockey mask are common wardrobe in the great white north.

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