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  • Neil
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    • May 2004
    • 6129

    #1

    Mount Marshall 2-03

    Mount Marshall 2/03

    Alistair and I met at UW and got underway at 8 :30. The trail up to Flowed lands is hard packed and barebootable. Many people had indeed used that means of conveyance which made skiing over the pock marked surface a bit tricky. When your kick zone sucks air it sucks. Skiing up the Calamity Brook trail requires excellent grip. Not very good grip, excellent grip. I had blue wax then on 2 occasions stopped and applied first red then violet. Ideally I would have used klister or base wax under the regular wax because the icy, rough trail acted as a wax remover. (Skins would likely have been a hindrance because many of the sections were flat enough to get a glide going).Alistair had waxless skis and they were no good at all. After liberal applications of red and violet his setup became so-so and he (and I to a lesser extent) alternated between skiing and bare booting. There are a few steep downhills that have ditches at the bottom. If your real good and you time it just right you can hop over these on the fly. I preferred to remove the skis for most of them.

    We glided effortlessly across Flowed Lands in the sunshine and thanks to the well beaten trail and no new snow easily found the route up Herbert Brook. If the trail had been hidden by new snow a gps would make a big difference once the creek peters out. Map and compass would do the job in the right hands but would be a lot more time consuming and less certain. We bare booted for 5-10 minutes then out came the snowshoes. I was experimenting with Northern Lites, these things are so light you would want to tie them down on a windy summit. Their crampons are nothing like MSR’s or Atlas however so just to play it safe I brought my Grivels. The Lites worked really well with only a bit of slippage and then only on the steepest pitches. Going down required care in planting the crampons correctly but they worked great.
    The route up Herbert Brook trail is very beautiful and of course in the winter you can often walk right in the stream bed thereby avoiding getting poked in the eye by sticks and branches. (Why do they always go for the eyes?)
    In spite of mighty Iroquois and its famed tooth to the north my favourite views of off Marshall are from openings on the South side. (Adams, Calamity, Allen, Santanoni etc.) No one had broken a trail yet over to the excellent viewpoints just off the summit. Make sure you check that out if you go.

    The ski down the Calamity brook trail was challenging and tiring. Don’t try it unless you have skied a lot. The conditions were very fast yesterday and the trail is steep (the speepest section is 20-25 deg) and narrow. Too narrow to turn or get a snowplow going. Plus there are rocks, ditches and logs. I’ve skied all my life and had metal edges but an old 3-pin binding boot combo with wear and tear that permits a fair bit of horizontal plane rotation and I wiped out a couple of times, (once on purpose when I got going way too fast.) and I removed my skis several times. I was wondering if with lots of snow the trail would become a deep, narrow furrow and even tougher to negotiate. Still, there were lots of long stretches where the trail was perfect and we got some stress-free fun rides. If I go back I would still use the skis but with a better wax job and better bindings.

    In the plateau between Marshall and the false summit between Marshall and Iroquois there is a small opening where the snowshoe trail splits in two, take the right fork. The left fork eventually leads back to the proper trail but wastes your time in some thick bush.
    The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.
  • Gandalf
    Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 116

    #2
    Yeah, I think the views south from Marshall are underrated. Great report! The rock slab portion of the Herbert Brook path must be interesting in the winter...

    I was a bit confused by your last paragraph...did you descend by way of Iroquois Pass, or did you go back the way you came?
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    - from the movie Dr. Strangelove

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    • Neil
      Admin

      • May 2004
      • 6129

      #3
      Originally posted by Neil

      In the plateau between Marshall and the false summit between Marshall and Iroquois there is a small opening where the snowshoe trail splits in two, take the right fork. The left fork eventually leads back to the proper trail but wastes your time in some thick bush.
      This clearing with the splitting of the trail was encountered on the way up the Herbert Brook trail.
      The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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      • Kevin
        **BANNED**
        • Nov 2003
        • 5857

        #4
        Originally posted by Neil
        This clearing with the splitting of the trail was encountered on the way up the Herbert Brook trail.
        I think I know what you mean, where the pass trail meets the Herbert broo ktrail (?).

        You have any pics?

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        • Neil
          Admin

          • May 2004
          • 6129

          #5
          Originally posted by Kevin
          I think I know what you mean, where the pass trail meets the Herbert broo ktrail (?).

          You have any pics?
          It's lower down than that.

          I've got pics from 2 hikes that I havn't had time to post and after Sunday I'll have 3.
          All this hiking is getting in the way of reporting on all this hiking.

          I didn't take any pictures towards the South (into the sun) from the summit.
          The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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          • Skyclimber
            SAFE CLIMBING
            • Dec 2003
            • 1086

            #6
            Sounds like you had a great time. Was there alot of snow up high? Is the trails icy?
            BTW how long did this trip take you?
            I always loved the view of Iroquios from there. Now your off to Allen on Sunday.
            "It is easier to become a Forty-Sixer than to be one. The art of the being is to keep one's sense of wonder after the excitement of the game is over."

            Paul Jamieson Class of '58

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            • Neil
              Admin

              • May 2004
              • 6129

              #7
              The trip took us five hours car to car.


              Ha ha ha, got you there! Took us 9 hours all together. There was a fair bit of snow up top, there were even some baby spruce traps!
              It was great to look over at Iroquois. What a beast! Especially because Dom and I came down to Cold brook pass from there last October.
              The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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              • alistair
                Member
                • Nov 2003
                • 135

                #8
                Snow coverage was minimal over the ice in the brook. If the temp rises and there is any melt it will only be ice. There is deeper less compacted snow on upper reaches/last 1/2 mile of herd trail.
                The whole trail was barebootable with the trail from UW to Flowed Lands having several exposed rocks. Make sure you have crampons or good grip on your snow shows.

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                • Skyclimber
                  SAFE CLIMBING
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 1086

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Neil
                  The trip took us five hours car to car.


                  Ha ha ha, got you there! Took us 9 hours all together. There was a fair bit of snow up top, there were even some baby spruce traps!
                  It was great to look over at Iroquois. What a beast! Especially because Dom and I came down to Cold brook pass from there last October.
                  What the Hell is a baby spruce trap? Either you fall in a trap or you don't. No matter how big it is. So I take a baby one, is to your ankles? A big one, is man-eating. Now I'm being a Smart A$$.

                  Do you mean Iroquios Pass?
                  Hope you had a nice view, like when I went.
                  "It is easier to become a Forty-Sixer than to be one. The art of the being is to keep one's sense of wonder after the excitement of the game is over."

                  Paul Jamieson Class of '58

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