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  • Harvey44
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    Maybe a chance for Hickory next season, stay tuned. Guarantee it will not be cheap.

    I don't think Snow Ridge get 300-400 inches of snow. I wouldn't be surprised if they got 300 one year in the last 20.

    Royal Mountain powder day:

    https://nyskiblog.com/royal-mountain-powder-day/

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  • stripperguy
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    Well, here we are in another ski season, and we're back to Royal.
    Skied yesterday with my favorite daughter, SIL and oldest grandson. Luckily, MDB and I drove up separately, since our granddaughter had a quick start stomach bug, and the littlest guy doesn't last much longer than his group lesson.

    The day started out at 6F, and warmed to nearly 20F by the time we left. Even with minimal natural snow, Royal had nearly every trail open, and even some of the woods in between were skiable...overall excellent conditions. They had maybe 4 or 5 inches fresh the night before, which, even though groomed down flat, made for soft surfaces. There were even Barbie and Ken sized bumps on the farside of the Royal, with some fresh over a broken crust---pretty fun stuff.

    Here's the only pic, as we were leaving.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/pjmGrQ11gCRjMkQF8

    Last edited by stripperguy; 01-10-2022, 09:18 PM.

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  • Fisheater
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    Mike, glad your having a good season. I have mostly just trail skied here in Michigan, but am quite happy to have great trail skiing since Christmas.
    I may be heading East next season. I bought David Goodman’s latest edition of Best Backcountry Skiing in the Northeast, which I really liked. He didn’t spill the beans on your honey hole!
    Enjoying the snow and cold!

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  • stripperguy
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    Skied Royal with MDB, daughter, SIL, and all three grandkids. This was my first family skiing in nearly a decade, I really enjoy teaching the little ones and seeing them enjoy and improve.
    Conditions could not have been better, great packed powder on the trails and powder on the edges and in the trees. Everyone had a ball, virtually no lift lines even though the parking lot was busy. Still very reasonable prices, too.

    I was surprised by the difference skiing the trees at a ski area vs true back country tree skiing. Even though Royal tends to attract better skiers, and there are less skiers than other areas, the trees are just not as good as my favorite BC spots.
    Still fun, just different.
    If any of you are on the fence about getting out next weekend, just do it. Conditions are the best in years, and will only get better with the coming snows and continued cold temps.

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  • stripperguy
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    Originally posted by Pmo View Post
    Man, is Eagle Mountain still there?? I grew up in Fonda. As a teen we used to come for "Men's Night" every so often - I think the lift tickets were like $3.00 unless my memory fails me?!
    I usually go to this thread for the fishing but wandered over here. I also noticed some people talking about Oak and Royal - also very familiar places. Anyone remember Shoemaker? Little mountain in Little Falls, just off the 90. Learned to ski there growing up, I make the drive from Rochester to Albany frequently and every time I drive by I have to look and take in the nostalgia. It's been closed for years now, but I often think someday I'll "sneak hike" to the top with by board in the winter time and get one last run :-)

    Eagle is looooong gone, I can barely make out the trail outlines as I drive by on the Thruway or even 5S...
    Eagle Mountain was the first place I ever skied, and MDB and I used to live about a mile farther up the hill on Muselbeck Rd.
    I remember my buddy's GF complaining about how small it was there, but at the time I was thinking "what more could anyone ever want?" They owned 600 vertical feet, but never installed the used chairlift that would go beyond their 300 vertical set of trails.

    I skinned and skied Shoemaker about ten years ago...pretty sure it's a private residence now.

    And if you're fond of those, how about the best of NYS skiing...Hickory? No snowmaking, all natural steep terrain, almost no grooming.
    That was my all time favorite ski area for many years. A group of us skinned and skied it 6 or 7 years ago with 3 ft of powder, the skiing was great, but for me it was bittersweet. Every rock, ledge, corner held memories of my youth and teaching my kids and my nephews and nieces to ski. When the snow was good, there was no place better!!

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  • Pmo
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    Man, is Eagle Mountain still there?? I grew up in Fonda. As a teen we used to come for "Men's Night" every so often - I think the lift tickets were like $3.00 unless my memory fails me?!
    I usually go to this thread for the fishing but wandered over here. I also noticed some people talking about Oak and Royal - also very familiar places. Anyone remember Shoemaker? Little mountain in Little Falls, just off the 90. Learned to ski there growing up, I make the drive from Rochester to Albany frequently and every time I drive by I have to look and take in the nostalgia. It's been closed for years now, but I often think someday I'll "sneak hike" to the top with by board in the winter time and get one last run :-)

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  • Frankonix
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    "I'll give you a ski lesson. Bend your knees, watch out for the trees, $25 please."
    Hahaha! Don't forget - "Scream in panic."

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  • Schultzz
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    I'll give you a ski lesson. Bend your knees, watch out for the trees, $25 please.

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  • montcalm
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    Not sure where you are in Michigan, but closest to the Detroit area, and worth driving to, would be Holiday Valley or Bristol.

    Holiday Valley has less vertical, but has more acreage. Bristol has more vert, but less acreage. I believe both would be bigger than anything in Michigan. Bristol I'm sure is because they tout being the biggest from the Adirondacks to the Rockies.

    Both being on the Allegany Plateau, they have similar attributes. Bristol doesn't have any tree skiing, but depending on the weather, that might not be an issue.

    From Detroit it's probably around 6 hours to either.

    There are a couple other small places in Western NY, but probably not really worth the trip. If you are out for a week and want to ski multiple places, then you might try Swain, Greek Peak, or maybe even Hunt Hollow if you are there on a Wed to Fri and the weather is decent. Hunt Hollow has a couple of the steepest, and narrowest runs of any of those places.

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  • JW
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    Royal is fantastic - coming from a former whiteface employee - Grooming is the best - snowmaking is right up to gore and whiteface standards - and the glades are great. best part of the glades is coming up to a tree stand one time - guess i was a little far off.... And Johnny in the Velcro Lounge is the best.

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  • Fisheater
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    Mike, I would love to BC ski, but right now if I am skiing on the road it will be with my son. He's 16, and he will still associate with me, so long as he wants to hang with me I'm happy. He isn't ready or interested in any BC skiing. However I would like to show him some new places and some bigger terrain.
    Thank you, for the information. I am disappointed to hear Hickory is closed. It wasn't that long ago you posted some nice photos of you and Hickory Skier at Hickory.

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  • stripperguy
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    Let's see...
    Plattekill is in the Catskills, base elevation is 2,000 ft so it gets and holds better snow than you might expect. There's some steep terrain, and they have an open slope policy (ski wherever you wish, but if you're injured, drag yourself to an open trail). It's rarely busy.

    Catamount in Hillsdale is a fun place, very reasonably priced and also gets some good snow when the Nor'easters come through.

    MCauley Mt in Old Forge is tons of fun too, similar to Platte but smaller. It's got some gnarly terrain and gets great snow.

    Snow Ridge in Turin is a long ridge with but 500 vertical. It's in prime position for lake effect snows and gets around 300-400 inches a year. There's some fun stuff far skiers left, most of the terrain is decidedly mild. Again, rarely busy.

    There are others like Swain, Song, Toggenburg, etc but I have no direct knowledge of them.

    Unfortunately one of the best areas is closed (and maybe forever). Hickory in Warrensburg is known as the little brother to Mad River Glen. When they had snow, there was no place better...very challenging and one of the best vibes ever. I grew up skiing there, very sad to see it fade away.

    There's also my favorite BC ski spot, mostly in NY, but also in MA.
    PM me for details if you think you might want to do some BC skiing.

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  • Fisheater
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    Mike,
    It looks like the snow is pretty good. I am thinking about taking my son to NY State for some skiing. It is approximately 8 hrs to the UP Michigan ski hill that I have taken him. That was his first time skiing a "mountain" as opposed to glacially deposited hills. NY State is closer than Vermont to Michigan, and my son being an intermediate I am confident he would enjoy both the NY terrain and drive time. I remember you posted some photos of Plattekill that peaked my interest. What other areas should I look at?

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  • stripperguy
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    Originally posted by OntarioSkiBum View Post
    I almost went to Oak Mountain Friday, but due to a last minute route change to Lake Placid (I had to pick up a buddy in Toronto), I ended up snowshoeing instead.

    Would Oak be similar to Royal? Stripperguy's TR makes me wish I would have gone boarding instead!
    OSB,
    Genearally speaking, Oak is less challenging than Royal
    But the views on Oak are much better IMHO

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  • stripperguy
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    Kevin,
    It was just about 0F when our day started, ended up in the teens, still a fine day.
    Even got a tour of "the ladies tee" from Johnny, bartender there for the past 7 years.

    ghia,
    It's a throwback to all of the places I skied when I was younger. There are still others like it...Plattekill, Hickory, Magic, Mad, McCauley, etc.
    I used to live in Pattersinville, there were 4 ski areas within 30 minutes. I had to drive down the mountain to ski at Eagle Mountain!!

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