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  • #16
    Got it - I think you mentioned this before, but I wasn't sure it was the same spot.

    I was actually struggling to figure out what it was, because the fern dominance didn't scream fen to me, although I'm pretty poor at photo recognition.


    That's really interesting actually... there must be something topographically/geographically significant about that spot to have seeded with old white pine (so we know historically it had been wiped by a storm) and then to be cleared of them - makes me wonder if they'll come in there again.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DSettahr View Post
      It's certainly been done. Glasby wouldn't be too far from Janacks Landing. For Cowhorn I might consider coming from Lows instead, by way of Big Deer Pond.

      A certain forum member here has paddled every named body of water within the boundaries of the Five Ponds Wilderness... perhaps he'll see this thread and chime in.
      If you are referring to Conk, I haven't seen many posts lately but he does sign on to Canoetripping and does post on Facebook.

      https://www.canoetripping.net/thread...ondacks.98482/
      Last edited by electbc; 04-07-2022, 03:29 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DSettahr View Post
        A certain forum member here has paddled every named body of water within the boundaries of the Five Ponds Wilderness... perhaps he'll see this thread and chime in.
        There are 95 named ponds within the Five Ponds Wilderness. I have added 21 that do not have names. While I have visited all 116 on this list, only 90 of them have wetted the hull of my canoe. Some are so small they do not warrant the effort, the rest, are on a yet to paddle list.
        To the question of doable, the answer is yes, very much so. The first 2 miles from Janacks Landing is a steady climb to a point halfway between Glasby and Cat Mountain Ponds. There is considerably less uphill on the next mile to Cowhorn. This three-mile carry will present opportunity to explore four very interesting ponds and more than fill five days of adventure. If the return journey is to Wanakena it is almost equidistant to continue north to West Flow for a lake paddle back to town, but know that Cranberry can present challenging conditions. The question I might ask is, what's the weight of your canoe and gear and how much do you enjoy carrying them? The ponds mentioned in this thread are the ones that set me on a quest to conquer them all.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by chairrock View Post
          From Cowhorn to West Flow, via the Six Mile Brook Trail/CL50 is doable if a bit long. You can bypass the CL50 loop that goes past Olmstead, Simmons, and Speculator Ponds. You will pass Sliding Rock Falls if you do.We call that the SOS loop. Do you fish? You will not be paddling Six Mile Creek...except maybe a small beaver flow or two. Olmstead has a LT and two nice tent sites. Carry on the SOS will be very difficult in a few spots... There is a spring on the east side of the trail just before West Flow. Campsite on the west bank a hundred yards north.
          Good to know that its doable from Cowhorn to Westflow, via the Six (even if we can't paddle it). The "SOS loop" would be bypassed.

          I do fish. I just suck at catching

          Thank you for the heads up on the sites, and spring locale.

          Originally posted by Wldrns View Post
          These ponds were well trailed and traveled before 1995. Tamarac had its own species of unique trout, and although it was off limits to fishing, I have heard that there are no more trout left in it. Then it took about 10 years to open most after the derecho. Which is not to mean that folks did not find parts of the trails unaffected or that bushwhack between ponds was impossible. I recall crawling over piles of downed tree logs randomly stacked together as much as 15 feet high, plus the tangle of small branch tops. Which is why I said it is possible. but with some difficulty, depending on how badly you want it. Those log stacks and brush tangles are for the most part gone now. High points and ridges may still be harder to travel on than through lower elevations that were not as hard hit by the wind. I actually found it much easier to bushwhack in a relatively untouched open ravine leading to Cowhorn rather than to attempt to stay on the old original marked trail.
          I know the trail from Lows vis BDP and up to Slender is now open, but I am not familiar with recent passage status west of Cowhorn.

          If you look at the topo map, there are a number of very interesting destinations to explore in the region bounded by said ponds and beyond. Some better known than others, some ripe for exciting discovery for the first time if you don't already know about them. I'll mention just one, which I call Jurassic Park. If you visit there, you will see why I named it as such.
          We spent 5 days on Lows last year. What a great area. Although we did not explore the furthest western bay.

          Im not looking to crawl and climb my way through blowdown. I dont want it that badly. But to be clear, the derecho affected area encompasses the region south and east of Cowhorn?

          The area bounded by BDP, Nicks, Clear, Slender, and Tamarack? One day I will have to find your "Jurassic Park". Looks like tick heaven in your picture. Thank you for sharing.

          Originally posted by Conk View Post
          There are 95 named ponds within the Five Ponds Wilderness. I have added 21 that do not have names. While I have visited all 116 on this list, only 90 of them have wetted the hull of my canoe. Some are so small they do not warrant the effort, the rest, are on a yet to paddle list.
          To the question of doable, the answer is yes, very much so. The first 2 miles from Janacks Landing is a steady climb to a point halfway between Glasby and Cat Mountain Ponds. There is considerably less uphill on the next mile to Cowhorn. This three-mile carry will present opportunity to explore four very interesting ponds and more than fill five days of adventure. If the return journey is to Wanakena it is almost equidistant to continue north to West Flow for a lake paddle back to town, but know that Cranberry can present challenging conditions. The question I might ask is, what's the weight of your canoe and gear and how much do you enjoy carrying them? The ponds mentioned in this thread are the ones that set me on a quest to conquer them all.
          Not sure if that was a rhetorical question or not, but..My buddy and I would be carrying a 42lb Spirit II. Gear weight, not counting water, generally would be much higher (40lbs+ per person), but Id imagine we would pack much lighter (30lbs or under) if we tried this trip.

          Do you know if the passage is clear, with regards to blowdowns etc? Have been through the area recently?

          Ill have to talk it over with the group, but considering this is mostly a hike, it sounds like this venture would be best with a pack canoe and minimal gear.

          Thank you for sharing your knowledge. While I haven't the ambition you do, to conquer them all. I will say the area nonetheless made an impression on me. One I wont soon forget..When we did the CL50 years ago, I recall finding a pool air mattress at the Cowhorn LT. What a welcome piece a trash that was. It held air long enough for us to take turns getting in a good float and soak, on a hot and humid summer afternoon, after hiking all day. And Olmstead pond, was a real beauty.

          Thanks again.
          “I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.”
          ― Jack Kerouac

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          • #20
            Vino,

            I cannot comment on the current tick popultion, but I have not had any recent issues with them in the area, but I do treat my clothing with permethrin. I was last in there in June 2021. I do bushwhack in the area rather extensively off trail, as I use the favored unique landscape features as off trail destinations to train and test new wilderness guides.That is how I discovered some of my favorite sites. Very little to none of the 1995 derecho remains as any notable obstacle off trail. But I do know that the former marked existing trails, at least the ones starting at Lows, are open and clear for travel. If you are a trail walker (or not), there should not be anything extensive to crawl over, save for a rare new blowdown tree.
            Last edited by Wldrns; 04-09-2022, 10:46 PM.
            "Now I see the secret of making the best person, it is to grow in the open air and to eat and sleep with the earth." -Walt Whitman

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Wldrns View Post
              Vino,

              I cannot comment on the current tick popultion, but I have not had any recent issues with them in the area, but I do treat my clothing with permethrin. I was last in there in June 2021. I do bushwhack in the area rather extensively off trail, as I use the favored unique landscape features as off trail destinations to train and test new wilderness guides.That is how I discovered some of my favorite sites. Very little to none of the 1995 derecho remains as any notable obstacle off trail. But I do know that the former mrked existing trails, at least the ones starting at Lows, are open and clear for travel. If you are a trail walker (or not), there should not be anything extensive to crawl over, save for a rare new blowdown tree.
              Thank you for clarifying, regarding the blowdowns. I definitely misunderstood that one. Also, thank you for the information on the trails from Lows.
              “I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.”
              ― Jack Kerouac

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