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  • Janacks Landing to Cowhorn Pond

    Good morning,

    I am wondering if anyone has portaged a canoe from Janacks landing to the various ponds east (Glasby, Cat Mt. pond, Cowhorn, Bassout)? Is it doable with 5 days gear and a canoe? Would I be able to fill 5 days going this route?

    I completed the Cranberry 50 years ago, but I dont recall the terrain through that area, with regards to portaging (I was just a hiker then).

    Anyway, Cowhorn pond, and Olmstead, have always made an impression on me, and I would love to be able to paddle and hike my way around the 5 ponds area, without having to venture too far north into Cranberry lakes' motor boats.

    Also, if its doable. I wouldnt mind finding a way to Indian Mt.

    Thank you in advance.
    “I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.”
    ― Jack Kerouac

  • #2
    Of course it is possible. Do you have a Hornbeck or other pack boat? Cowhorn at one time was a highly cherished destination. There are others along the way to explore off the western end of Lows as well.The once well worn trails were decimated during the 1995 derecho, but most have breen reopened and are somewhat traveled again, but expect a few difficult spots.
    Last edited by Wldrns; 04-07-2022, 01:09 PM.
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    • #3
      Indian Mt. and Indian Mt. Pond can be most easily approached from the CL 50 trail heading west from Chairrock Creek. As you hike up the hogback, you need to continue straight along old hunters/logging trails that lead to the ponds. At one point the trail was marked with red discs.
      From the west you can also bushwack from near Sliding Rock Falls , also along old hunters trails skirting some beaver flows.
      The ponds are not very big, I wouldn't bother with a boat. This is Indian Mt. Pond.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Wldrns View Post
        Of course it is possible. Do you have a Hornbeck or other pack boat? Cowhorn at one time was a cheriished destination. There are others along the way to explore off the western end of Lows as well.The once well worn trails were decimated during the 1995 derecho, but most have breen reopened and are somewhat traveled again, but expect a few difficult spots.
        My buddy and I will be carrying a Kevlar Wenonah. We would like to explore most of the ponds east, on the way towards Indian Mt.

        Originally posted by chairrock View Post
        Indian Mt. and Indian Mt. Pond can be most easily approached from the CL 50 trail heading west from Chairrock Creek. As you hike up the hogback, you need to continue straight along old hunters/logging trails that lead to the ponds. At one point the trail was marked with red discs.
        From the west you can also bushwack from near Sliding Rock Falls , also along old hunters trails skirting some beaver flows.
        The ponds are not very big, I wouldn't bother with a boat. This is Indian Mt. Pond.
        Perhaps we will skip Indian Mt., and stay on the ponds between Janacks Landing and Cowhorn. We wouldnt want to leave the boat at Janacks, if we decide to camp on one of the other ponds. Besides, the canoe should help for fishing, and exploring.

        That's a neat looking rock face in your Indian Mountain pond picture.
        “I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.”
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        • #5
          It's certainly been done. Glasby wouldn't be too far from Janacks Landing. For Cowhorn I might consider coming from Lows instead, by way of Big Deer Pond.

          A certain forum member here has paddled every named body of water within the boundaries of the Five Ponds Wilderness... perhaps he'll see this thread and chime in.

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          • #6
            All of the above, but sometimes all you need to carry is a paddle to use on one of the many abandoned boats, oh and a pfd....
            Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DSettahr View Post
              It's certainly been done. Glasby wouldn't be too far from Janacks Landing. For Cowhorn I might consider coming from Lows instead, by way of Big Deer Pond.

              A certain forum member here has paddled every named body of water within the boundaries of the Five Ponds Wilderness... perhaps he'll see this thread and chime in.
              My thought was to follow the hiking trails from the Janacks landing leanto, to Glasby pond.

              Glasby ---->Cat Mt. trail (may as well hike that on the way).
              Cat Mt. trail---------> Cowhorn junction trail.
              Cowhorn junction trail---> Cowhorn pond.

              If possible, continue on to hike/paddle all the way up, or along, Six Mile Creek to West Flow, in South Bay of Cranberry.


              I guess I want to know if the trails would be conducive to carrying a canoe from pond to pond? And would it even be worth the effort? Im trying to plan a hybrid trip this year. One where we split our time between paddling and hiking/exploration via a base camp, or something. If you have any suggestions, I am open.

              With regards to your route to Cowhorn, via Lows. Specifically, which way are you suggesting? From Big Deer pond to Tamarack to Slender to Cowhorn?

              Are there trails between these ponds?
              “I like too many things and get all confused and hung-up running from one falling star to another till i drop. This is the night, what it does to you. I had nothing to offer anybody except my own confusion.”
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              • #8
                Simmons and Speculator

                From Cowhorn to West Flow, via the Six Mile Brook Trail/CL50 is doable if a bit long. You can bypass the CL50 loop that goes past Olmstead, Simmons, and Speculator Ponds. You will pass Sliding Rock Falls if you do.We call that the SOS loop. Do you fish? You will not be paddling Six Mile Creek...except maybe a small beaver flow or two. Olmstead has a LT and two nice tent sites. Carry on the SOS will be very difficult in a few spots... There is a spring on the east side of the trail just before West Flow. Campsite on the west bank a hundred yards north.
                Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by VinoNoir View Post
                  I guess I want to know if the trails would be conducive to carrying a canoe from pond to pond? And would it even be worth the effort? Im trying to plan a hybrid trip this year. One where we split our time between paddling and hiking/exploration via a base camp, or something. If you have any suggestions, I am open.

                  With regards to your route to Cowhorn, via Lows. Specifically, which way are you suggesting? From Big Deer pond to Tamarack to Slender to Cowhorn?

                  Are there trails between these ponds?
                  These ponds were well trailed and traveled before 1995. Tamarac had its own species of unique trout, and although it was off limits to fishing, I have heard that there are no more trout left in it. Then it took about 10 years to open most after the derecho. Which is not to mean that folks did not find parts of the trails unaffected or that bushwhack between ponds was impossible. I recall crawling over piles of downed tree logs randomly stacked together as much as 15 feet high, plus the tangle of small branch tops. Which is why I said it is possible. but with some difficulty, depending on how badly you want it. Those log stacks and brush tangles are for the most part gone now. High points and ridges may still be harder to travel on than through lower elevations that were not as hard hit by the wind. I actually found it much easier to bushwhack in a relatively untouched open ravine leading to Cowhorn rather than to attempt to stay on the old original marked trail.
                  I know the trail from Lows vis BDP and up to Slender is now open, but I am not familiar with recent passage status west of Cowhorn.

                  If you look at the topo map, there are a number of very interesting destinations to explore in the region bounded by said ponds and beyond. Some better known than others, some ripe for exciting discovery for the first time if you don't already know about them. I'll mention just one, which I call Jurassic Park. If you visit there, you will see why I named it as such.
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                  • #10
                    Is that large maple in the picture above still alive?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by montcalm View Post
                      Is that large maple in the picture above still alive?
                      You will have to go there to find out.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wldrns View Post
                        You will have to go there to find out.
                        I may... but I was curious if it was when the pic was taken. It has some fungi on it, but I was curious if it had been killed by the storm and left standing.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by montcalm View Post
                          I may... but I was curious if it was when the pic was taken. It has some fungi on it, but I was curious if it had been killed by the storm and left standing.
                          I believe that tree, as well as many others nearby, was alive at the time of the photo. Deadfall and former standing stubs of broken trees from the derecho of several years prior were by then long gone at the level and vicinity of that particular tree. Other live mature trees nearby are obvioiusly alive, as you can also see in the far background of the photo.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wldrns View Post
                            I believe that tree, as well as many others nearby, was alive at the time of the photo. Deadfall and former standing stubs of broken trees from the derecho of several years prior were by then long gone at the level and vicinity of that particular tree. Other live mature trees nearby are obvioiusly alive, as you can also see in the far background of the photo.
                            It looks like an old tree. I think it's a red maple, but I'm not 100%. I'd bet it's over or around 200 years old.

                            At any rate, it'd be great if some of those old trees survived, particularly on the edge of that fen (is it a fen?). It has a good, straight, thick stem. Probably tough enough. Although perhaps the whorled maples do better (I think you might have mentioned that).

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                            • #15
                              Not a fen. Where my companions are walking in the photo it is completely dry solid ground all the way to the far treeline. Before 1995, in a location about a half mile from this location there was a quarter mile long stand of very large virgin white pine trees. After the derecho, all were lost, except for just a single one remaining that only lost a segment of its topmost portion. I have heard that this tree was at one time in contention for the largest white pine in the state. It is another of those area unique locations to find that we call "the old man". I use this and other interesting points to find in the area during a guide training course as a land navigation destination test (traditional map and compass only is allowed, please).
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