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  • fisher39
    Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 1006

    #1

    Bear Trap

    Does anyone know when bear traps were banned in NYS? My brother found one this weekend - just the top of the jaws were poking out of the leaf litter, and most of it was buried in the duff. Quite the find!
  • Adkleaddog
    Member
    • Mar 2004
    • 249

    #2
    We found one as well a few years back....you'd need a lever to set the springs on the thing! The jaws are at least 16" in width... I'll check when they were last used.
    "If You Ain't the Lead Dog,
    The Scenery Never Changes"

    (Age Old Yukon Saying)

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    • pondhopper
      Have creel; will travel
      • Nov 2003
      • 749

      #3
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      bump
      --"Pete You***?!, Pete You***'s grandson?!...That name is nearly sacred & uttered with awe in THIS house!" : The late Dr. Reed's wife, upon entering her house & being introduced- so to converse with her husband about the old days, a little before he died. The kind of greeting you'll never forget & reinforces your image of the hero you never met. --

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      • Adkleaddog
        Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 249

        #4
        I forgot I was going to ask our wildlife biologist this...

        I'll inquire and let you know when he returns from the "wilds"....
        "If You Ain't the Lead Dog,
        The Scenery Never Changes"

        (Age Old Yukon Saying)

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        • cbrown7
          Member
          • Sep 2006
          • 42

          #5
          They've been outlawed many many years. They are huge. Are you sure it was a bear trap? If it was a legally set trap and you disturbed it in any way you are technically in violation of the law. The leg grips used for coyotes are not too small - maybe that's what it was.
          "Solitude and silence are positive, precious life forces which every human needs and has the birthright to enjoy"
          Anne LaBastille

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          • pondhopper
            Have creel; will travel
            • Nov 2003
            • 749

            #6
            Originally posted by Adkleaddog
            I forgot I was going to ask our wildlife biologist this...

            I'll inquire and let you know when he returns from the "wilds"....
            Be interesting to know how long it takes him/her to find out Seems to be stuck in "obscurity", IMO.

            Vaguely, recall an old, indirect story from Grampa regarding George Muir and a bear drag.

            So, just for fun, I'll make a wild guess and say beartraps were outlawed in the 1870's - 1890's. Probably, wa-a-a-y off !!!
            --"Pete You***?!, Pete You***'s grandson?!...That name is nearly sacred & uttered with awe in THIS house!" : The late Dr. Reed's wife, upon entering her house & being introduced- so to converse with her husband about the old days, a little before he died. The kind of greeting you'll never forget & reinforces your image of the hero you never met. --

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            • JohnnyMac
              Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 188

              #7
              Its hard to imagine why any trapping is still legal.
              John

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              • Sasquatch
                Member
                • Jul 2004
                • 380

                #8
                Originally posted by JohnnyMac
                Its hard to imagine why any trapping is still legal.
                Never mind... I don't feel like doing this-> No point in it.
                How is it that you are heading west? Well, we face north and then really sudden like turn left.

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                • JohnnyMac
                  Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 188

                  #9
                  Sasquatch - I didn't mean to rile anyone. I understand both camps...just sharing my opinion.
                  John

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                  • chairrock
                    Indian Mt.Club
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 2714

                    #10
                    Fisher 39,
                    How big was the trap?
                    Was it tagged with a copper ID?
                    Was it staked into the ground?
                    Did it have a drag?
                    Let me know ,we'll see if itr is a bear trap.
                    Any
                    other markings on it?
                    Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

                    When a dog runs at you,whistle for him.
                    Henry David Thoreau

                    CL50-#23

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                    • fisher39
                      Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 1006

                      #11
                      Here it is on the back of the guy that found it... it had some nasty teeth and a "No. 5" on the place where the bear or unfortunate hiker would step. There was no stake or drag - presumably it had rotted or rusted away.
                      Last edited by fisher39; 02-08-2011, 10:21 AM.

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                      • pondhopper
                        Have creel; will travel
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 749

                        #12
                        Cool, fisher39! It looks a little, similar to one from this catalog: http://cgi.ebay.com/c1895-TRAP-CATAL...QQcmdZViewItem
                        --"Pete You***?!, Pete You***'s grandson?!...That name is nearly sacred & uttered with awe in THIS house!" : The late Dr. Reed's wife, upon entering her house & being introduced- so to converse with her husband about the old days, a little before he died. The kind of greeting you'll never forget & reinforces your image of the hero you never met. --

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                        • fisher39
                          Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1006

                          #13
                          Thanks for the link! Too bad that auction ended - that would make a great Christmas present for the finder. I think it was exactly that style of trap - the No. 5 was there (my brother delicately scraped away some of the rust) and the teeth were just like that - attached underneath the jaws.

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                          • chairrock
                            Indian Mt.Club
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2714

                            #14
                            Fisher 39
                            The #5 indicated the size of the trap, usually measured as the distance between the opened and set jaws.In NYS it is against the law to use a steel trap with a spread of more than 7 1/4 inches under water, as for a beaver.
                            It is always illegle to use a trap that size set on land.I believe the limit on land is a spread of 4 3/4 inches .Each manufacturer has their own method of labeling however, so a #5 from Oneida might be different from a #5 from Duke.Try to clean up the trap pan some more, thats where the #5 is, it might have the manufacturers name on it.Some of the big old traps can bring a pretty penny at auction, so be careful.You can get a idea of it worth from eBay.BTW, yours is a double longspring trap.
                            Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

                            When a dog runs at you,whistle for him.
                            Henry David Thoreau

                            CL50-#23

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                            • chaser
                              pond jockey
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 499

                              #15
                              Fisher39, how much do you think that sucker weighed? Imagine French Louie hauling a couple of those in his pack basket? Or even better yet, finding it full!
                              Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.....

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