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  • beaverPond
    Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 238

    #1

    Lower Seargent Pond

    Last time I was here all I caught were bass. I heard a rumor that DEC was killing it off and restocking with trout. Does anyone here know anything about this? It gets so much pressure that it may be ruined anyways. Those damn planes come in every weekend. I think that you should have to get to these ponds by foot.

    beaverPond
  • Green Butted Skunk
    ΚΑΝΝΑΒΕΙΣ
    • Jun 2005
    • 113

    #2
    Ls

    Haven't been in three years, last time I was there I spent one day just rowing around the pond netting garbage from the bank.

    Caught some nice trout though

    GBS

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    • ken999
      Member
      • Apr 2004
      • 957

      #3
      Beaverpond- As it was told to me by a person at DEC, "they" are waiting for the fishing to "really" decline before reclaiming the pond. If it were to be done too early some Sargents lovers might get ornery...the Bass are bad news though...it just a matter of time.

      The fishing for brookies is still O.K. in there...were you fishing from shore or by boat. There are still some good sized Trout to be had by trolling.

      That particular pond thrived on fishing pressure, consistantly pumping out big fish. According to DEC, if it did not recieve the pressure it has over the years, the fish population would be too high and growth would be stunted. I used to long for tighter regulations in there myself, but now that I know the facts, I think the current rules are fine. Sometimes catch and release isn't the best policy IMHO.

      Personally I've had a lot of fun in there over the last five years or so...I kinda like watching the planes and would love to take a ride in one someday. There's lot's of other ponds to fish out there and having 20 or so that are air accessable in the 'dacks doesn't hurt a thing in my book.

      Did you know thay the pond was only stocked one time in the early 70's? Not many ponds in the park can "claim" that.

      neat huh?

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      • beaverPond
        Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 238

        #4
        Only once in the 70's? Amazing it has produced so many trout.

        I have a funny story about this pond:
        My brother-in-law and I decided a few years back to haul a canoe in. We set up the canoe on wheels he brought and started loading in our gear for the 2 day trip. When he said he was getting wheels I thought he meant some serious wheels. These things looked more like wheels for a kid's toy. Anyways, when our gear was fully loaded and we started to roll this thing there was little give. The damn thing would barely move. So we take a look at the axle and notice it is bent to hell. He then proceeds to tie a rope for extra support. We try again and the damn canoe comes right off the wheels and the nose goes into the dirt. After a bunch of swearing(we looked forward to this all winter) we stand there thinking about what we are to do next. He wants to get in there no matter what. I look at my watch and realize we have about 2+ hours of daylight. He talks me into dragging this fully loaded heavy a** coleman canoe 2.1 miles. So we tie ropes around our waists and start our labor. It was rediculous. Every rock on that trail has a bit of orange on it from this drag. After about 15 minutes we stopped for a break and I tried to convince him to turn around. He was determined to keep going so I went along. I am a young guy(24 at the time) in good shape. This drag took everything out of me. When we made it to that lean to it was like going to heaven. I guess the thought of catching 15+ inch brook trout kept me moving for this rediculous drag.

        Well the next 2 days we caught 3 freakin BASS! And another group of campers caught 2 small trout! Between everyone fishing every technique was utilized (trolling buggers, wobblers, worm, etc). I did manage to drink some rum straight up. And since we planned on eating trout all weekend we packed light on the food. All he brought was some sausage! All I brought was Rum and some small cans of veggies. By the time this trip was over I could not even look at sausage. I can't stand it till this day 3 years later!

        You know what though? I wouldn't trade this trip in for anything in this world. No money can replace this experience.We talk about it everytime we get together for a fishing trip.

        I swore I would never go back to this pond. But your comments above have me thinking it was just bad luck.

        The most rediculous part of this story is that we went and bought better wheels for a trip to murphy lake the next year. Guess what? The wheels broke again and we dragged the same canoe fully loaded 4 f'in miles in the heat! I blew out my knee on the way out and it is bothered anytime I push it too far. The fishing was great although the trout had "fish lice" which was a real bummer.

        I am now a bit older(28) and have learned the hard way how to plan a trip. I will never drag a canoe through the 'dacks ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        beaverPond

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        • marzrw
          Member
          • Mar 2005
          • 1571

          #5
          Been there, done that. That's why a lot of guys are going Kevlar and float tubes.
          We all learn the hard way, don't we...
          "The way I see it, you're hooked.Trout have you. Another soul lost." Elias Wonder, The Earth is Enough by Harry Middleton

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          • Creekwader
            Snag Locator
            • Nov 2003
            • 965

            #6
            Well the next 2 days we caught 3 freakin BASS! And another group of campers caught 2 small trout!


            Beaverpond,
            Call Rich Preall at DEC Region 5 in Ray Brook and complain to him directly. He's the one that will ultimately decide if and when to reclaim the pond. If the bass have nearly taken it over, and he's gotten enough complaints, he will reclaim it. And while you're at it, tell him to build a fish barrier dam on boulder brook to prevent bass from migrating up to the Sargent pond fish barrier and thus take away the temptation for some sleazeball to put bass into the pond. If anyone thinks that bass (both small and largemouth) don't swim up through streams to spawn, go check out the Marion River dam on Utowana lake on June 1 next year and you'll find a big surprise.
            -CW

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            • marzrw
              Member
              • Mar 2005
              • 1571

              #7
              WB caught a huge smallmouth way upstream in a fairly remotr brook trout stream...
              "The way I see it, you're hooked.Trout have you. Another soul lost." Elias Wonder, The Earth is Enough by Harry Middleton

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              • serotonin
                ember
                • Oct 2004
                • 2399

                #8
                Did he eat it...?

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                • marzrw
                  Member
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 1571

                  #9
                  No, C& R.....

                  Later on we realized he shouldn't have done that....
                  "The way I see it, you're hooked.Trout have you. Another soul lost." Elias Wonder, The Earth is Enough by Harry Middleton

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