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  • protocoldroid
    always smoothin' it
    • Jun 2004
    • 302

    #1

    Extra Terrestrial

    Sero had a wonderful idea for a pool to try out after these big rains (which were needed, hallelujah!), we hadn't been in a while, and neither of us were sure of the bugs that'd be about.... that wouldn't be stopping us

    We meet up at the pool, sero arrives while I'm talking to a group of three bait guys, they're hauling a bucket of 15 fish... I ask what they were using, the guy looks at me like I have 3 heads "worms of course.......... ohhhhh you're fly fishin', ain't much worms in fly fishing!". Almost forgot, there was one other guy who left the pool before these guys while I was tying on a new leader... He saw the fly rod and asked, "Fly fishing, you like that? Looks tough" but, he asked it with the same tone as if asking "...Cow tongue, you like that? Doesn't look very tender". I just said "Ahh, it's not as tough as you'd think, I love it!". There's some mystique with fly fishing for people I think, I mean there was to me before I started. Heck, this is silly, but... When I was a kid, we had a stream running through our backyard, actually some really nice features of this stream nearby our house that attracted fishermen, and I'd see fly fisherman now and then, and when I'd see them false cast I didn't know what the purpose of it was, and I thought the fish would jump out of the water and take the fly out of mid-air as if it were buzzing around!

    One interesting thing about the pool which sero pointed out, and I somehow didn't even think twice about was... Some crafty (or sneaky, i guess whatever your perspective is on it) fisherman decided to make some "improvements" to the pool, they piled up some rocks to kind of squeeze a flow of water to be a little tighter and faster, and also made a kind of dam with a dead tree across the tail of the pool.

    I beat sero down to the pool by a few minutes, and got to get in a few casts before sero gears up. Catch a little guy on a "danger baby ", which was dropped below a "goddard caddis " (...and I just realized I forgot to tie the antennae on it, whoops). Sero comes down with a sulfer already rigged up and says "might as well try it", 1-2-3 right off the bat

    How did we make the decisions on what flies to use you ask.... Well... Sero already had that sulfer on, and I just put caddis on because it always seems caddis is good at this pool.... The one gauge we didn't have to help us choose our flies was... A hatch! We didn't see a bug the whole day. There were more horse flies than midges (and we only saw midges over dry land), and just a few moths and a yellow jacket.

    Soon enough we've got an audience slightly bigger than a high-numbered-cable-channel-fishing-show watching the infamous "Proto & Sero Fishing Hour". A couple kids are trying to push a dog in the pool... The dog was in luck (as were sero and I), it's one huuuuuuge dog, it was like two kids trying to push around Andre the Giant. Speaking of dogs, Daisy was tagging along and yet again proves to be the most chill fishing dog, she's awesome -- almost like a "cheshire dog" if-you-will... Disappearing and reappearing elsewhere, teleporting herself into locations where she wouldn't spook a fish.

    It seemed the fish were feeding in waves.... It'd be hot for a couple minutes, we'd be seeing flashes an occasional riser and we'd be doing alright. Then it would test our patience, and i'd get to really feel the sun burning the crap out of my neck Sero did a bunch of experimenting with patterns, I think he used 7 or more patterns that were all able to catch fish.

    We did have some amazing moments.... To bring the story back around, you know how I was saying I used to think as a kid "the fish would take the fly in midair while false casting", sero got about as close to that as humanly possible... While lifting his line to back cast a little bugger jumped right out of the water and did actually take a dry in mid air!! I also had a lucky double, I took two fish at once, one on the dry and one on the dropper, hahah, it was entertaining. I'm seeing the one fish I thought I caught and I'm like "why the hell is that other fish chasing my fish??? ....oh! there's two on there!". Sero tried to snap a photo, but... It's hard enough to manage getting two fish off of your rig without having to get them into a picture perfect position

    Our action had started to slow down, due in part to the pressure we had exerted on the pool... Sero then gets the idea of the day....

    "You know what they might rise for? A beetle, gotta try a beetle"

    ...And we were able to bring the action back a bit I tried a "gum beetle" for a little bit, got one take, and lost the guy while playing him... It was kind of a pain to see it in the water, so out of frusteration I tossed on a "turck's tarantula" (pretty much the biggest dry in my box), got one guy in it, that brownie smasssshed that turcks, definitely funny, it's a huge fly. Sero kept up with his beetle after trying some tiny ants, and was doing alright. He had a sweet beetle on there, I really like it, gonna hafta try to imitate it.

    After one of the last "waves" of activity we had.... I was feeling a little tired and sunburnt, and decided to call it a day. Sero and I chat for a bit, watch one guy head down to the pool, and five minutes later, come right back to his car and take off! Sero decides to hit up another pool down the road, and I headed "back to the ranch".

    I go grocery shopping, park on the street at my place, drop all the stuff off at the house, and go back outside to move my car.... I look up and what do I see? Sero's van!!!!! He's on his way to see his brother, pulls over and we chat for a bit. He says...

    "Doug, you're just not going to believe this" At that next pool, sero had scored another 6 fish in 6 casts on that beetle, daaaaaamn! What a great call on that beetle, perfect day for a terrestrial when we hadn't seen a single bug come off the water.
    "ya gotta get a better view outside, cause you'll burn right up inside, through the knowledge fools get the mileage, birds eye view, catch all this" -del
  • sacco
    no soup for you
    • Apr 2004
    • 1156

    #2
    nice story doug. i like beatles or generic attractor terrestrials like a club sandwich.

    i 've never had much luck with ants or hoppers.
    Fly Fisher's Anglers Association- a fine drinking club with a fishing problem
    www.GoFlyFish.org

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    • marzrw
      Member
      • Mar 2005
      • 1571

      #3
      Sounds like a good time. Glad you guys got out together.Have witnessed a few trout leap in the air for a bug, it's pretty cool. Nice you guys get to fish for so many risers. We don't get out enough to know if we just don't hit our streams right or what, but at least you guys are getting some dry action. Sacco, I never have had much luck with those either, except one time I was fishing a muddler and wasn't getting it down well enough in this pool. All of a sudden a large trout came up, smacked it, and scared the h-ll out of me, I did land land him though.
      "The way I see it, you're hooked.Trout have you. Another soul lost." Elias Wonder, The Earth is Enough by Harry Middleton

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      • serotonin
        ember
        • Oct 2004
        • 2399

        #4
        ...Cow tongue, you like that?

        I especially like the descriptions of the Cow-tongue-Situation, and the 'Cheshire Dog'.

        Originally posted by protocoldroid
        ... Disappearing and reappearing elsewhere, teleporting herself into locations where she wouldn't spook a fish.
        Her consistency in that behavior freaks me out a little.
        Anyhow... Daisy likes cow tongue.
        Presumably, she likes fly-fishing too.

        All in all, it's a very accurate and very honest report by proto.
        Maybe i can add a few details.

        For example, humble-proto neglected to mention how many trout were enamoured w/his Danger Baby. (Enough to lose count). He was doing Very Well and seemed to be enjoying it; despite par-boiling himself inside his neoprenes.

        As proto mentioned, the catching seemed to come in waves. We concocted a little theory regarding this, but it's very long-winded.

        Suffice it to say, many different flies, fished w/various drifts and swings, including retrieves... all caught fish at certain times.
        Here are some of the flies that worked, in this non-hatch situation:
        Danger Baby!
        Goddard Caddis
        Turck's Tarantula
        Bead Head Pheasant Tail
        Olive Flash-back Hare's Ear
        Sulpher Dun
        Elk Hair Caddis
        CDC Olive Emerger
        Crystal Flash BH Wooly Bugger in Orange/Olive
        Two Types of Black Beetles
        and probably a couple other dry flies.
        (it's a pretty fertile stream)...

        The Danger Baby and the Beetles were the most consistent.

        If i were to hazard a guess, i'd say very conservatively... 30-36 trout were caught; 40% on dries...? But who's countin'...

        Then there was that Beetle Invasion on the other stretch of water...accounting for about 10 more.
        I couldn't see that fly but i knew it was there.
        So did the trout.

        Anyhow, Great fishing w/proto...!
        Last edited by serotonin; 06-21-2005, 12:25 AM.

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        • wildbrookies
          Member
          • Sep 2004
          • 2706

          #5
          Hey Sero and Proto,

          Thats alot of action!!!

          Proto sounds like he got his fix for a little while anyway.

          How could all those differant flies work?

          Was the water especially ` fishy looking`.Ex.. I call the river fishy looking when it was high and colored and is on the downswing of that.Receding nicely and still has a nice tint in the coloration.Or...its on the rise after a rain and is`nt quite chocolate milk yet ,but nicely tinted.My brother finally understands what I mean when I say this phrase..

          Anyway you guys really got into them..

          Also by the sounds of it Daisy sure had a ball as usual.She must fall asleep at night with trout dancing and jumping all around her in her dreams.Shes got a great life.....lucky dog....

          I`m not much of a terrestrial guy.I did do well on the W. Br. Ausable one time using a grasshopper pattern in the middle of summer.But, there was a nice overhanging bank and a nice run sliding deeply under it.The grasshopper was inhaled by a few dandies,I can remember.

          I`ll have to dig them out and have them at the ready, that time of year is quickly approaching.

          Well,thanks again for the nice report....your reports kinda gives us a heads up on what to think about or try on our next outing...

          I did have all 4 trout hit my dropper fly Sunday...They all refused the peacock wonder up the line.You`re so right about using a soft-hackled wet fly tagging along on the end.Thanks Sero!!!

          Tightlines and flies ,

          WB
          "Get your mind off trout,if you can.I know they`ve got you.I can see it. Every fraternity of sufferers knows its brothers.Trout hook men;men don`t hook trout.Better try and throw the hook while you can.By the time you`re a grown man there probably won`t be a pure trout healthy enough to fiddle with"... Quote from Emerson in the book "The Earth Is Enough"by Harry Middleton

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          • serotonin
            ember
            • Oct 2004
            • 2399

            #6
            Originally posted by wildbrookies
            Was the water especially ` fishy looking`.Ex.. I call the river fishy looking when it was high and colored and is on the downswing of that.Receding nicely and still has a nice tint in the coloration.Or...its on the rise after a rain and is`nt quite chocolate milk yet ,but nicely tinted.My brother finally understands what I mean when I say this phrase..
            You got it! Very 'fishy-looking'!

            High and colored (but Not too high/Not too colored) and on the downswing of that. Receding nicely and still a nice tint in the coloration. Very clear near the shallows; mildly tinted in the deeper water. I think we got lucky and hit the right place at the right time, perfectly. We also had some decent cloud cover. When the sun came out, we still did OK, thanks to the tint and the mood of the fish.
            In a couple days when it's very clear, i bet the fishin's gonna be tough. ...Unless of course there's a nice hatch...!


            Forgot to mention... the stretch of water i hit after proto left, was 95% shaded. That was the idea and it paid off big time.
            Every now and then, it all falls into place...

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            • wildbrookies
              Member
              • Sep 2004
              • 2706

              #7
              I agree w/ya!!!Sero..

              I like talking about this to people who really can feel when a particular outing is going to be trouty or not....I think its another one of our senses ,that a fishermens picks up as his/hers years astream collect.....The mood of the river upon seeing it first hand will most times reflect a certain feeling to me....enough babbling...

              I don`t care for gin-clear water and neither do the trout....then sun is the key factor.
              Lower light the better.But,w/ a tint to the water ,it seems the trout behaviors change.They become less spooky and more aggressive to feed openly than during high sun times......Kinda like they`re letting their guard down......especially in the case of the rainbow I seduced on Sunday afternoon....She was lying under the canopy an overhanging tree ,causing about two good casts out of ten.But, she was very aggressive as she flashed and slashed under the fly before I felt the take.Polaroids helped me watch the whole show..... ...I`ll be playing that scene back over and over in my mind for awhile.... Don`t you just love the ways of the `Trout World` ???.

              We`re a lucky lot` are`nt we ???

              WB
              "Get your mind off trout,if you can.I know they`ve got you.I can see it. Every fraternity of sufferers knows its brothers.Trout hook men;men don`t hook trout.Better try and throw the hook while you can.By the time you`re a grown man there probably won`t be a pure trout healthy enough to fiddle with"... Quote from Emerson in the book "The Earth Is Enough"by Harry Middleton

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              • serotonin
                ember
                • Oct 2004
                • 2399

                #8
                Originally posted by wildbrookies
                in the case of the rainbow I seduced on Sunday...
                ... lying under the canopy of an overhanging tree

                ...she was very aggressive
                .. she flashed and slashed

                watch the whole show..... .

                We`re a lucky lot` are`nt we ???
                Yup.

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                • protocoldroid
                  always smoothin' it
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 302

                  #9
                  Wow, it really didn't hit me how many flies took fish until you got that list, that is a super load. I think in part with the slow hatch some of the fish were feeding "on opportunity" (instead of a very specific bug), it's the only reason I can think they took that Tarantula, it's huuuuge.

                  The fish count and "fish on dries" ratio sounds about right to me.... And damn it was awesome Definitely made my day, perfect, definitely needed to get out!!!!

                  I only ever tied the danger baby in the first place because of sero's eye in the first place Noticing the rise form for when they're chasing the sub-adult caddis from the bottom to the surface, and of course when you found a bunch of caddis nymphs on one rock way up stream, back in the spring. Running out of those again, you can tie almost one a minute, gotta tie some more.

                  If a hatch had come along.... we would've been slamming it -- well... assuming that sun was right... The sunlight really seems to play a major factor there. I've definitely got to try a dusk-time outing there soon.
                  "ya gotta get a better view outside, cause you'll burn right up inside, through the knowledge fools get the mileage, birds eye view, catch all this" -del

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                  • protocoldroid
                    always smoothin' it
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 302

                    #10
                    By the way.... It seemed to take just as many techniques as it did flies as sero mentioned...

                    Dead drift for the turcks and goddard for me.
                    Danger baby on the dead drift, on the swing, and on the strip.
                    I tried twitching a couple flies, I know sero was skating some flies.
                    I even tried hand twist retrieve without any luck.
                    "ya gotta get a better view outside, cause you'll burn right up inside, through the knowledge fools get the mileage, birds eye view, catch all this" -del

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