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  • MikeinMaryland
    Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 79

    #1

    High Peak Time Records

    Just wondering if anyone has ever kept track of record fast ascents or round trips up the high peaks?
  • lumberzac
    Beware of the Lumberzac
    • Apr 2004
    • 1730

    #2
    Are you looking for times on individual peaks or for all 46. Just saw on VFTT that Jan Wellford of Keene Valley just set the record for all 46 in 3 days 17 hours and 14 minutes.
    A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.

    http://community.webshots.com/user/lumberzac

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    • MikeinMaryland
      Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 79

      #3
      Wow that is amazing - I was looking for either/both.

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      • randomscooter
        Native Earthling
        • Jul 2005
        • 1500

        #4
        Originally posted by lumberzac
        Are you looking for times on individual peaks or for all 46. Just saw on VFTT that Jan Wellford of Keene Valley just set the record for all 46 in 3 days 17 hours and 14 minutes.
        Better still, check out the report on ADKHighPeaks forum.
        Scooting here and there
        Through the woods and up the peaks
        Random Scoots awaits (D.P.)


        "Pushing the limits of easy."™

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        • Dick
          somewhere out there...
          • Jan 2004
          • 2821

          #5
          There are no "official" records kept by the Adirondack 46ers. You'll find more discussion of Jan's feat here and here. For some reason, it's a fairly controversial topic.

          Dick

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          • lumberzac
            Beware of the Lumberzac
            • Apr 2004
            • 1730

            #6
            Originally posted by randomscooter
            Better still, check out the report on ADKHighPeaks forum.
            Ah, I missed the report over there.
            A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.

            http://community.webshots.com/user/lumberzac

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            • MikeinMaryland
              Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 79

              #7
              I hiked Marcy from the Loj last Thursday and was at the summit in about 2 hours 45 minutes. I know that this time is nothing special but I was just wondering how fast it has been done.

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              • uberTurtle
                Ruffian
                • Nov 2003
                • 102

                #8
                Google "Cave Dog"/Ted Keizer and/or check out thecavedog.com for the Marshall Mountain Madness Ultramarathon. Current record for the 46 High Peaks is 3 days, 18 hours and 14 minutes. ***** Just read some stuff that was posted while I was making dinner and saw that this record has been bypassed - WOW! ******

                The other notable record in the Adirondacks is the Northville-Lake Placid trail run which is currently at 37 hours and 31 minutes for the 122 mile run. This was set by Tim Seaver in 2005.

                As for most rounds of the 46 High Peaks, you might want to talk to Pin Pin. I've heard various numbers kicked around, and I'd warrant he might have lost track himself, so I wouldn't want to guess.

                Hope this gets you pointed in the right direction.
                ADK 46er #7634
                ADK Winter 46 8/46

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                • TCD
                  Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 2101

                  #9
                  I don't know if anyone has data on records for individual peaks. Pinpin hikes VERY fast, but he is not racing, and he's carrying hiking equipment. I don't think there have been any formal races up any individual peaks; it would probably be controversial, although I think it would be a lot of fun. It would be nice to know how fast some folks could do some of these. I've done Giant in an hour from Chapel Pond, but I'm not very fast. I noticed Jan did it in 1:26 as part of his overall 46 journey, which is very impressive. I'm sure he could do it in a lot less than an hour as an isolated event.

                  Maybe some day we'll have a few more races to liven things up...

                  TCD

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                  • redhawk
                    Senior Curmudgeon
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TCD
                    Maybe some day we'll have a few more races to liven things up...

                    TCD
                    Hopefully not.
                    "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                    • randomscooter
                      Native Earthling
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 1500

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TCD
                      I don't know if anyone has data on records for individual peaks. Pinpin hikes VERY fast, but he is not racing, and he's carrying hiking equipment. I don't think there have been any formal races up any individual peaks; it would probably be controversial, although I think it would be a lot of fun. It would be nice to know how fast some folks could do some of these. I've done Giant in an hour from Chapel Pond, but I'm not very fast. I noticed Jan did it in 1:26 as part of his overall 46 journey, which is very impressive. I'm sure he could do it in a lot less than an hour as an isolated event.

                      Maybe some day we'll have a few more races to liven things up...

                      TCD
                      "Roughly" an hour, or 60 minutes? That's remarkable, and I'm not at all sure that Jan has surpassed that time. As of last summer my time for Giant/RPR was slightly faster than Jan's (yes, we sort of have a friendly competition going) but I'm sure this year his time is better. My recollection is that my time to Giant was 1h14m.

                      As for Marcy, Jan did it from S.Meadows in 1h35m35s last fall, and one of the summit stewards did it from the Loj in 1h12m. I'm not aware of any faster times, although Neil reported that one of the Olympic XC skiers "meandered" up in 1h25m one day while Neil was up there. Likely could've broken 1 hour if he didn't have more important things to do.
                      Scooting here and there
                      Through the woods and up the peaks
                      Random Scoots awaits (D.P.)


                      "Pushing the limits of easy."™

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                      • Neil
                        Admin

                        • May 2004
                        • 6129

                        #12
                        What I like about hiking is the limitless ways a person can go about their business while having fun and expanding their personal universe.

                        Here is my own humble example from 2006:


                        Well, today was my moment of truth. I planned this thing out fairly meticulously. What to wear, what to carry, what to eat, how much rest before.

                        I worked out the distances, grades and estimated times for each leg of the route and consulted with an Adirondack expert, modified my times a bit and finally signed out this morning at 8am.

                        I ran to Marcy Dam and kept checking my heart rate monitor. The numbers were surpisingly high. Trail running isn't the same thing as street running I guess. It took me 26 mins. to cover the 2.1 miles with a rather high heart rate. I was one minute behind schedule. This was going to be tougher than I thought.

                        After the Dam I had to slow to a walk or my heart rate went ballistic and entered into what I knew was the "lactic acid zone". Once in a while I could run but not too often. However I made the Phelps junction 4 minutes ahead of time. I forgot to bring my estimated times with me and couldn't remember the remaining leg times too well. This I thought was a good thing because I didn't want to push myself too hard trying to make a certain time. I wanted to treat this as a "fact finding mission" and use the times as a base for future experiments.

                        I figured that the section from Phelps Brook to the Indian Falls was the key. The average grade is 15% and so I slowed down and let my HR drift down into the upper 140's. If I worked too hard here I'd be cooked later on the summit cone. I arrived at the Indian Falls 9 minutes ahead of "shedule". I remembered that 1:10 from the Loj was considered too agressive by my coach so I changed it to 1:20.

                        Everything was peachy keen untill I hit the frozen stuff. At first it was just the boardwalks. Gradually there was more and more ice. Also what didn't help is that there was lots of water on the trail and my feet got soaked. Here and there I slipped on an ice covered log.

                        The final junction (to Haystack - the Phelps trail?) came and went. The summit cone had a fair bit of ice on it but it was easy to avoid it. I ran the final 50 yards or so and pushed the button on my watch. 2:26:38!

                        10 minutes later this guy comes running rapidly up to the summit. One of his quads was bigger than my 2. He had no pack, just a belt with 2 little water bottles.

                        Here's the dialogue that went between us:
                        Me: Did you keep track of your time?
                        Him: Yeah, 1:25
                        Me: Oh yeah? Did you run the entire way? (Thinking: WTF!!??)
                        Him: Well not on the icy steep part at the end.
                        Me: I did it in 2:25
                        Him: yawn
                        Me: Where're you from?
                        Him: New Hampshire but I'm staying at the Olympic Training Centre.
                        Me: Are you an athlete? (Duh!)
                        Him: I'm a cross country skiier.
                        Me: International level?
                        Him: I've been to 2 olympics.
                        Me: You see that pile of rocks (pointing to the summit rocks people carry up)
                        Him: Yeah?
                        Me: I had them in my pack, that's why I was so slow.
                        Him: (Standing in the freezing cold wind with no jacket) Well I gotta go. Be seein' ya.

                        I went and got my stuff together and the last I saw of him he was already off the summit cone running like an antelope. 1:25!
                        The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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                        • MikeinMaryland
                          Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 79

                          #13
                          Wow if it is 7.5 miles to the summit of Marcy from the loj then the summit steward was traveling an average of over 6 mph - which is just insane to think about.

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                          • lumberzac
                            Beware of the Lumberzac
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1730

                            #14
                            Let's not turn this into a debate about trail races. We've been down that road several time and then never ended very well.
                            A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.

                            http://community.webshots.com/user/lumberzac

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                            • redhawk
                              Senior Curmudgeon
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10929

                              #15
                              It wasn't about trail races Zac.

                              It's about competitions and records and having more people coming into the high peaks and trying to break the existing record to satisfy their own ego's and nothing to do with enjoying the outdoors.

                              We don't need more reasons to bring more people into the high peaks at a time when the DEC may be thinking about limiting them in some way.

                              Someone wants to set a goal and accomplish it,that's fine. A personal challange? That's fine too.

                              But, the minute it gets publicized or someone want's credit for "the record" then it just propoagates and it's no longer about a personal thing.

                              That's my Opinion, for what it's worth, and since others have posted theirs about the feat, it's only fair that i post mine.
                              "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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