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Hikers vs hunters...
I know nothing about hunting season beyond that bow season is longer than gun. No idea what the actual dates are. My neighbor mentioned that he can hunt this weekend NORTH of Route 29 but not SOUTH of it (I think he was talking about bows not guns, but not sure). Is that correct? I thought hunting season was state-wide re: exact days. Really my big question (Redhawk) is: Do I need to be worried about hunters when I hike Bennet/Middle/Murphy Lakes in Hope this weekend? I hadn't even thought about that until I saw someone else mention hunters in another thread. Thanks - Paranoid Mom
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The large game hunting seasons is split up by two zones, northern and southern, that have different seasons. This weekend in the northern zone, only bow season is open. Next weekend is the start of muzzleloading season followed by the start of the regular riffle season the weekend after that.
Here are a few maps that show the zones as well as the seasons.
The best thing to do to ensure your safety is to wear clothing and or make noise that identifies you as a human. Wearing bright colors will help this a lot, blaze orange is the best color to wear. Also avoid wearing white and browns, as these are colors that could be mistaken as deer. This becomes more of a concern during the regular riffle season where the guns used by hunters have a significantly longer range.
You should be fine hiking this weekend. Enjoy your hike.A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.
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The link below takes you (hopefully) to an old thread on this subject.
You're in significantly more danger driving (at least tens of thousands more times!) to the trailhead than you are while hiking during hunting season. Go. Have Fun!!
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No you don't need to worry. I was just in there yesterday. Wear bright colors and make some noise just as a precaution. You'll be fine.Originally posted by GSLgal"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. JohnsonComment
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I do not recommend hiking while wearing THISThe best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.Comment
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Oh my God, that's laughing out loud funny! :0"Adventure is a state of mind - and spirit" Jacqueline CochranComment
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Whats funny is that it costs $1600. Good grief, is it made out of sasquatch fur?He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.Comment
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Originally posted by hobbitling
Well it would explain that strange bald spot on my butt......
How is it that you are heading west? Well, we face north and then really sudden like turn left.
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As stupid as it sounds, I'd wear that in the woodsOriginally posted by Neil
. I'd have an orange vest on over it, and a rifle... make a bunch of drunken hunters think the tables have been turned. Be hilarious to see on the 11 o'clock news "Hunters claim Elk was hunting them!... more after this"
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Your post sounds a bit provocative,Tuchov. "Drunken hunters"-might they be the counterpart stereotype to the would be elitist unprepared backpacker who has to be rescued by DEC when he gets too tuckered out to hike back to the trailhead? Somehow I don't recall any hunters using cell phones or Personal Locator Beacons to beg for help to bail 'em out when they exercise bad judgment. Just a thought.... HoplophileComment
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Right on. If it weren't for the hunters and fisherman who first took an interest in the land in the 19th century (and the rich folk who bought massive tracts of land, most of which went to the state, but some of which are still being cared for by the original preservationists' decendents), the Adirondacks as we know them probably wouldn't exist for any of us. One of the things that makes the Adirondacks so great is that people tend to be exceptionally open-minded about all the ways the land can be enjoyed. Hunters and fisherman, and hikers and birdwatchers all share a profound love for the land and generally don't look down their noses at one another (or admit to it - and many of us are all of those things). And nothing good can come from doing so.Originally posted by DAVID R. GROESBECKComment
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You already got one thread where we tried to discuss this civilly closed. Why don't you try to address it without throwing in the insulting references to baclpackers?Originally posted by DAVID R. GROESBECK
Are you unable to make your points civilly?
Just for the record, I know a lot of hunters, and to my knowledge none of them have a drinking problem, nor are they drunk in the woods.
On the other hand, there have been firearm accidents with hunters (as there have been accidents with drivers, snowmobilers, campers, backpackers and pedestrians) involving alcohol.
I was up at Whitehouse last season at the beginning of hunting season and there were 3 pickups, 5 hunters, 4 fifths of Jack Daniels and at least 6 cases of beer that I could see. They were standing aaround guzzling and chatting with their rifles slung at 1 PM in the afternoon.
Not really very bright in my estimation.
So, in short, there are mostly good responssible hunters. However there are irresponsible, careless and yes, sometimes drunken hunters, probably in the same proportion to drunken hikers, drivers, atheltes and everything else.
So please be a little less sensitive and if you want to discuss this then do it in an intelligent, SOBER way. Your manner is not winning any points for hunters.
Of course, the use of the word Hoplophile in your post, bristles of militias, firearms and extreme right, which also tends to indicate that moderation may not be your intention. Judging from your own public description...
"Atheist & Libertarian many years. Member American Atheists,CNY Skeptics,Life member National Rifle Assn,. Advanced training combat firearms Lethal Force Institute"?Last edited by redhawk; 10-12-2006, 10:51 AM."If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. JohnsonComment
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Redhawk,
My reading of "hoplophile's" comment was he was saying that the "drunken hunter" stereotype is as silly as the "elitist unprepared backpacker" one, although his comment "Somehow I don't recall any hunters using cell phones or Personal Locator Beacons to beg for help to bail 'em out when they exercise bad judgment" veers away from the moderate start a bit - every hunter certainly isn't a saint, nor is every backpacker, etc. There are bad apples in every barrel, and we should not smear the whole batch, which is the sentiment I was supporting. I got the sense that Tuchov may have been doing some smearing due to some anything-but-moderate comments made in the thread about private club access, which seemed to demonstrate a lack of understanding about the nature of the park and what makes it work.Comment
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I think the "Hikers vs. Hunters" title could have been something else. It realy was just a question about the season.Comment
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