Hiking plans for spring, summer, and fall 2006

[Kevin]

Consider this a belated New Year's resolution thread.

If I don't write some of these down now I could forget as other ideas pop into my head while on the trails this summer (I'm expecting to be doing something outdoors every weekend this year, weather permitting). Most of these will be posted in the events planning section, so if any of this interests you PM me or post in the thread the week before the hike.

The first will be helping with some NPT trailwork in mid-May. I might even take some time off from work to ensure I can make the Friday leg of the hike.

Next will be memorial day weekend with Val, Bruce (judgeh), jim, and others, hopefully climbing #45 and 46 with Valerie (Seymour and Seward). I would like to add Donaldson and Emmons, both on my do-over list. I would also like to get back into Ouluska Pass but that may have to wait for a following trip.

Shortly after on the best weather/views day I can get I want to reclimb Iroquios via Lake Colden (one of my favorites) which would complete my second round in style. That same trip I may try the Trap Dyke up Colden as well on the first or last day, but not the same day as Iroquios.

Then the summer opens up. Being limited to mostly weekends means I'll probably have to keep the planning simple. Some of the things I wanted to do but didn't get to last year were the 1990 Colden Slide, Nippletop Slide, Mt Adams, portions of the NPT, more exploring around the Cedar Lakes area, some overnight casual car camping in Vermont and the eastern shore of Lake George... etc.

[Skyclimber]

That same trip I may try the Trap Dyke up Colden as well on the first or last day, but not the same day as Iroquios.

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Please make sure before attempting the Dike that it is Completely dry!! It's best to wait to do it, during a dry spell. This climb is very dangerous otherwise. For safety reasons it may be best to bring a rope for a couple of those "hard" to do places.

[lumberzac]

The big trip for me this year is going to be about 120 miles of the northern section of the Vermont Long Trail at the end of summer. I'm going to need to do as many "training" hikes as possible to get myself in good hiking shape for this.

Maybe I'll even manage to finish up the ADK 46.

[Kevin]

Please make sure before attempting the Dike that it is Completely dry!! It's best to wait to do it, during a dry spell. This climb is very dangerous otherwise. For safety reasons it may be best to bring a rope for a couple of those "hard" to do places.

Thanks Marta, I was thinking exactly along those lines. I'm treating it like a very steep slide climb, in which case some sort of rope/safety measure and dry conditions are required. Percious/Chris told me he felt doing the Trap Dyke was more dasngerous than standard rock climbing because of the lack of support most bring compared to rock climbing. I'm hoping to be safety-minded. I'm also not going to be soloing that day and would prefer to be with someone who's done it before.

[Kevin]

Maybe I'll even manage to finish up the ADK 46.

What ones do you still need? I thought you were at 40-ish...

[lumberzac]

What ones do you still need? I thought you were at 40-ish...

I’ve got some fun ones to do.
First round:
Redfield
TableTop
Macomb
Allen
Phelps
Cliff
Nye

Second round:
Whiteface
Gray
Basin
Colden
Redfield
Saddleback
TableTop
Macomb
Hough
Seward
Marshall
Allen
Big Slide
Esther
Street
Phelps
Donaldson
Seymour
Sawteeth
South Dix
Colvin
Emmons
Blake
Cliff
Nye

I want to try and see if I can finish my first two rounds on the same day. The ones in bold are trips I have already planned.

Last year, Street, was the only new peak I climbed. I just barely got that one in on December 31, 2005.

[Kevin]

I want to try and see if I can finish my first two rounds on the same day.

I don't think that's possible, for a peak to be considered "reclimbed" you have to start another hike. Maybe Phelps, hike back out to the car then hike back up?

I'm interested in maybe doing Allen again, but as an overnight. There's several legal spots on state ground along the brook that look very nice for camping.

[Rik]

I don't think that's possible, for a peak to be considered "reclimbed" you have to start another hike. Maybe Phelps, hike back out to the car then hike back up?

I'm interested in maybe doing Allen again, but as an overnight. There's several legal spots on state ground along the brook that look very nice for camping.

I don't think there are any rules regarding "reclimbs". Multiple rounds is a personal goal so I think people can make up their own rules. It is not recognized by any official club or group.

[Dick]

I don't think there are any rules regarding "reclimbs". Multiple rounds is a personal goal so I think people can make up their own rules. It is not recognized by any official club or group.

Are there rules even for the 1st round, regarding starting location for the hike?

[Skyclimber]

Thanks Marta, I was thinking exactly along those lines. I'm treating it like a very steep slide climb, in which case some sort of rope/safety measure and dry conditions are required. Percious/Chris told me he felt doing the Trap Dyke was more dasngerous than standard rock climbing because of the lack of support most bring compared to rock climbing. I'm hoping to be safety-minded. I'm also not going to be soloing that day and would prefer to be with someone who's done it before.

Usually the strongest climber in the group leads, in order to help the "weaker" climbers. In some places it does take another to pull someone up. It's a complete group effort. It's more of a thinking process in climbing, as there are many steep steps to get up, with long legs a big help. Also to know exactly where to place your hands and feet next. It can be scarey. Remember DO NOT LEAVE THE DIKE TO EARLY!!

[Neil]

Yeah, you play the game according to your own rules. Say some different people want to bushwhack all 46 peaks. One might bushwhack up to Phelps then across to Tabletop and consider himself to have bushwhacked both peaks. A second person might not count Tabletop because they didn't begin it as a new hike from scratch but only continued from Phelps. Some might decide it's OK to use the trail system to get to the beginning of the bushwhack, others might begin whacking from the parking lot or along a road. No trailed portions allowed. Then the descent: some may think it's cool to descend on the trail, others not.

And on and on ad nauseum.

[Skyclimber]

I don't think there are any rules regarding "reclimbs". Multiple rounds is a personal goal so I think people can make up their own rules. It is not recognized by any official club or group.

I have to disagree with you Rik. In my opinion, if you want to say you have done multiple rounds, than the hike should all be done from car to car.

The Forty Sixers no longer "recognize" multiple rounds but when Grace was the Historian, she did.

[Dick]

I'm long since past making new years resolutions, but we do have some given hiking:
Grand Canyon in May (essentially this trip: http://www.allhikers.com/Allhikers/H...rip-Report.htm)
Northville-Placid Trail thruhike in August
Some June hiking in the high peaks with Silverback
Other backpacking and daytrips with friends old and new on the forum (some already planned)

Dick

[Rik]

Are there rules even for the 1st round, regarding starting location for the hike?

I think there are some. I don't think Whiteface "counts" if you drive up the road and then walk up the stairs or even if you hike the trail up and take a car down. The 46ers recognize this accomplishment so in their eyes there needs to be some criteria.

[Rik]

I have to disagree with you Rik. In my opinion, if you want to say you have done multiple rounds, than the hike should all be done from car to car.

The Forty Sixers no longer "recognize" multiple rounds but when Grace was the Historian, she did.

That's just my point Marta. You said "in my opinion". Without any governing body it is left to each of our opinions. I happen to agree with your opinion and don't "count" Colvin each time I return from Blake but some do. Not for me decide. Some lists (Trailwrights in NH) requires individual climbs for each peak. No ridge walking so each peak on the Great Range would need to be done on seperate hikes or the Santanonis and Sewards would require at least 3 or 4 , hikes respectively. If the 46ers or anyone else decided to start handing out "Round Rockers" for each additional round they would need to establish rules or criteria to meet that goal. Right now we make the goal so we make the rules. Maybe if Zac wants to use "Grace's rules" (that's what I would use) then he needs to return to the car. If he uses "Zac rules" then he could return only to the VanHo trail or Marcy Dam or climb a peak in between ascents... The only real issue would be in comparing the accomplishment with other's accomplishments which personally doesn't interest me but then even that could be done with a simple "what criteria did you use to count a peak as a reclimb?"