Snow map accuracy?

[forgedin78]

Ive found that its most accurate to look out in the yard and measure

[canoe_junkie]

Im pretty sure where the map is white, they do not record snow depth.

Yeah, that's my point, it doesn't cover the whole state. That wunderground site seems to be a bit more accurate, albeit a little less detailed and harder to read.

[calvins]

I'm not sure but wunderground may be more accurate from what I've seen

http://www.wunderground.com/US/Region/Northeast/2xSnowDepth.html

[forgedin78]

Im pretty sure where the map is white, they do not record snow depth. Just going by where they white area starts, I would guess they go by watershed areas. It appears that the large white area in the south central part of the state drains into the susquhanna, and Delaware. While the areas that they are recording drain into the mohawk, hudson, St lawrence. At least in my area. Not sure about the geography of western NY. But I know that right where the white area starts in northern otsego county, is where the water changes from running to the mohawk(north) and instead goes to the susquehanna(south).

[canoe_junkie]

Make sure you update the calender thing to the left of the map,then hit the redraw button above,what a difference....eacx time you use it, it must reload old maps....

Yup, it's current, but still shows the southeastern part of the state as no zero snow

[chairrock]

I have to wonder if this covers the whole state. I have a place in Northern Chenango County and we've been hammered with snow and ice for the past two weeks, yet this map has never shown any accumulation.

Make sure you update the calender thing to the left of the map,then hit the redraw button above,what a difference....eacx time you use it, it must reload old maps....

[canoe_junkie]

I have to wonder if this covers the whole state. I have a place in Northern Chenango County and we've been hammered with snow and ice for the past two weeks, yet this map has never shown any accumulation.

[dog]

You see , how it's rainbowing now ! Hope for upper colors .
Just an observetional map for a huge territory . Good one . I use it for last two years .

[dog]

And scale .
The originally discussed map is approx. 1:63 oo ooo . It is ~ 92miles in 1 inch .
Elevated territories ( peaks ) with snow could be shown only as dots .

I think , there was a talk among Creators of this map about it with the final " Ah, come on ! Everybody knows there is some snow in mountains in October - May ! " .

So , do not blame them - they did their best in that frame .

[Adkleaddog]

I provide some of the data for the NOAA modeling..starting in January..the map they provide are from stations that report to NOAA directly. Keep in mind that the measurements are usually at a specific station, so they tend not to be accurate at other elevations or spots, especially in higher terrain. This time of year is hard to get a decent map of actual snowpack, the ground is still warm, evaporation and sublimation occurs and changes observations rather quickley. Lack of data (actual observations) will result in "holes" in the map. Later in the year or season, check the interactive maps and query the stations, there's a lot of information to digest.

Try this link for specific info, and poke around a bit with the others:

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/nerfc/products/BOSWRKF1B.txt

others

At the NOAA website, scroll down to "Additional Snow Links", and then to: "Northeastern U.S. Snow Depth", drag a box over the area of interest to zoom in on a specific region, and query the map.

Have fun!

[dog]

At www.ncdc.noaa.gov/ they they reduce our expectations from that maps : " Posted accumulations may underestimate actual accumulation due to missing observation . " .

On the other hand they probably count on melting-evaporating ... .

On the other other hand gray there corresponds to 0 -1 " - it is still something !

[Chickadee]

thats funny...we have snow on the north side of some 5,000 ft plus peaks in western north carolina...just about an inch and a half or sooo...at that elevation the ecosystems present are very similiar to the adk.

[southernadkhiker]

I wonder about the accuracy of this website becasue like 2 weeks ago, they showed that oswego county had 2 inches of snow in it, when there wasnt a speck on the ground. And this wasnt the day that cny got like 3-4 inches, a few wks ago.

[Keithk]

Quick update

Cold morning today, had a dusting here in Tupper... was in Lake Placid today, and it looked like it was snowing pretty good up in the mtns...

[windsong781]

So, yea, I'm afraid it's just rain and mud for now We want to ski!

Yea, where in heck is all the snow, I want to ski too! Think SNOW...think SNOW...think SNOW!

Windsong