Snow map accuracy?

[Emily T]

Whoever first posted this map link:

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/nerfc/graphics/snowmaps/html/snow_depth.html

...thanks very much!

Now, for those of you who actually live in the 'Dacks, is it accurate? Right now, it shows no snow at all.

Planning a trip early next week, and the forecast is for clear but cold. I just wonder if there will be snow on the ground, too. (I'm not talking about the peaks..I know that's pretty much a given!)

Thanks!

[Keithk]

No snow

In fact, I doubt that there is even snow on most of the peaks... I know whiteface has stopped trying to make snow for now.

It's been very warm for this time of year, and there has been a TON of rain. We had one pretty good storm, 5ish inches here in tupper, but that was at least 2 weeks ago.

So, yea, I'm afraid it's just rain and mud for now We want to ski!

[Emily T]

Thanks Keith!
I've seen reports/predictions of yet another very mild winter....but, "they" could be wrong. Look what happened with the prediction of a dire hurricane season this year!
Thanks again for the info.

[windsong781]

So, yea, I'm afraid it's just rain and mud for now We want to ski!

Yea, where in heck is all the snow, I want to ski too! Think SNOW...think SNOW...think SNOW!

Windsong

[Keithk]

Quick update

Cold morning today, had a dusting here in Tupper... was in Lake Placid today, and it looked like it was snowing pretty good up in the mtns...

[southernadkhiker]

I wonder about the accuracy of this website becasue like 2 weeks ago, they showed that oswego county had 2 inches of snow in it, when there wasnt a speck on the ground. And this wasnt the day that cny got like 3-4 inches, a few wks ago.

[Chickadee]

thats funny...we have snow on the north side of some 5,000 ft plus peaks in western north carolina...just about an inch and a half or sooo...at that elevation the ecosystems present are very similiar to the adk.

[dog]

At www.ncdc.noaa.gov/ they they reduce our expectations from that maps : " Posted accumulations may underestimate actual accumulation due to missing observation . " .

On the other hand they probably count on melting-evaporating ... .

On the other other hand gray there corresponds to 0 -1 " - it is still something !

[Adkleaddog]

I provide some of the data for the NOAA modeling..starting in January..the map they provide are from stations that report to NOAA directly. Keep in mind that the measurements are usually at a specific station, so they tend not to be accurate at other elevations or spots, especially in higher terrain. This time of year is hard to get a decent map of actual snowpack, the ground is still warm, evaporation and sublimation occurs and changes observations rather quickley. Lack of data (actual observations) will result in "holes" in the map. Later in the year or season, check the interactive maps and query the stations, there's a lot of information to digest.

Try this link for specific info, and poke around a bit with the others:

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/nerfc/products/BOSWRKF1B.txt

others

At the NOAA website, scroll down to "Additional Snow Links", and then to: "Northeastern U.S. Snow Depth", drag a box over the area of interest to zoom in on a specific region, and query the map.

Have fun!

[dog]

And scale .
The originally discussed map is approx. 1:63 oo ooo . It is ~ 92miles in 1 inch .
Elevated territories ( peaks ) with snow could be shown only as dots .

I think , there was a talk among Creators of this map about it with the final " Ah, come on ! Everybody knows there is some snow in mountains in October - May ! " .

So , do not blame them - they did their best in that frame .

[dog]

You see , how it's rainbowing now ! Hope for upper colors .
Just an observetional map for a huge territory . Good one . I use it for last two years .

[canoe_junkie]

I have to wonder if this covers the whole state. I have a place in Northern Chenango County and we've been hammered with snow and ice for the past two weeks, yet this map has never shown any accumulation.

[chairrock]

I have to wonder if this covers the whole state. I have a place in Northern Chenango County and we've been hammered with snow and ice for the past two weeks, yet this map has never shown any accumulation.

Make sure you update the calender thing to the left of the map,then hit the redraw button above,what a difference....eacx time you use it, it must reload old maps....

[canoe_junkie]

Make sure you update the calender thing to the left of the map,then hit the redraw button above,what a difference....eacx time you use it, it must reload old maps....

Yup, it's current, but still shows the southeastern part of the state as no zero snow

[forgedin78]

Im pretty sure where the map is white, they do not record snow depth. Just going by where they white area starts, I would guess they go by watershed areas. It appears that the large white area in the south central part of the state drains into the susquhanna, and Delaware. While the areas that they are recording drain into the mohawk, hudson, St lawrence. At least in my area. Not sure about the geography of western NY. But I know that right where the white area starts in northern otsego county, is where the water changes from running to the mohawk(north) and instead goes to the susquehanna(south).