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  • #2
    I read that Gulf Brook Road is now finished but they did say that it was only open to Fly Pond Parking. Any updates on this? I realize that Mud gates would open around end of May.

    Here is the Quote on the DEC Page:
    Work on three bridges along Gulf Brook Road is complete. Due to weather conditions, the road is closed for the winter season to motor vehicles but skiing and snowshoeing is allowed. The road will be open to public motor vehicles as far as the Fly Pond Parking Area after the spring mud season, generally in late May.
    Last edited by electbc; 03-20-2022, 11:15 AM. Reason: Quote from DEC

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    • #3
      We skied to the ponds in December. This photo of a foot bridge built on top of the bridge over the dam at LaBiere Flow indicates that this bridge, just short of the parking at Four Corners, has yet to be replaced/rebuilt. This probably explains why one will only be able to drive as far as the Fly Pond (Inner Gate) parking.
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      Every time that wheel turns round, bound to measure just a little more ground.

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      • #4
        Thank you for that info. Nice picture, must be a great trip in there on the snow. Looks like the limited access will keep a lot of folks out.

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        • #5
          The slow response repairing Gulf Brook Road and its long-term maintenance issues are becoming a headache for NYSDEC. It will be interesting how this plays out.

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          • #6
            Somehow Finch Pruyn kept that road serviceable for decades. What's the problem for Albany, with their 200 Billion dollar budget? Pathetic.

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            • #7
              Close it. Problem solved. Or just keep it open to the Fly Pond parking area. It is only about a 45 minute walk from there, and it used to be fairly easy to cart a canoe from there. Now it is a pain in the ass with all the crushed stone they added to the road.

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              • #8
                Would it be easier with wide tire carts or would any cart be cumbersome?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by electbc View Post
                  Would it be easier with wide tire carts or would any cart be cumbersome?
                  I have done it twice with carts carrying Hornbecks. Carts had touring road bike tires and were fine. I imagine mt bike tires might be good too.

                  Possibly the best outdoor experience I have had in 50 years of hiking and camping in the ADK. Were there right after the purchase and before road and campsite installation. Paddled for 3 days, LNT camping (just TRY and find where we camped), swam with loons...spectacular stargazing, too.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TCD View Post
                    Somehow Finch Pruyn kept that road serviceable for decades. What's the problem for Albany, with their 200 Billion dollar budget? Pathetic.
                    Exactly!
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                    • #11
                      I agree that the response to the washouts was way too slow, and somehow the DEC couldn't manage to remove, at least as of last December, all of the old culverts that had been pulled out and replaced.

                      However, having driven that road a few times soon after the Nature Conservancy had bought it, Finch Pruyn maintained it for logging trucks and higher clearance vehicles. It was pretty rough in places. I drove it twice during that brief period between being open to Four Corners and the Halloween storm washout, and by then it was in much better shape than it was when Finch Pruyn maintained it well enough for their purposes.
                      Every time that wheel turns round, bound to measure just a little more ground.

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                      • #12
                        Finally, some news. A 3 year wait for a temporary bridge.


                        Temporary Bridge Restores Motor Vehicle Access on Road Damaged by 2019 Halloween Storm

                        New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Basil Seggos today announced the restoration of public motor vehicle access to the Four Corners Parking Area on Gulf Brook Road in the Boreas Ponds Tract. The completion of the installation of the temporary bridge over LaBier Flow Dam is an important milestone in the ongoing work to improve the road and promote sustainable recreation.
                        "The Boreas Ponds Tract is a treasure trove of recreation possibilities and an invaluable piece of New York's Forest Preserve," said Commissioner Seggos. "Every segment of work completed on Gulf Brook Road allows visitors to enjoy even more of this area's beauty and advances DEC's efforts to promote the sustainable use of this land for future generations."
                        The Boreas Ponds Tract spans almost 20,000 acres across two Forest Preserve management units: the High Peaks Wilderness and the Vanderwhacker Mountain Wild Forest. It offers opportunities for a wide range of outdoor activities, including hiking, biking, camping, and horseback riding. It is perhaps best known for the remote and scenic paddling and fishing Boreas Ponds provide.
                        A severe storm on Oct. 31, 2019, caused significant damage to multiple bridges and culverts along Gulf Brook Road. DEC worked to replace and improve upon this infrastructure to restore access and reduce potential damage from future storms. The temporary bridge installed over LaBier Flow Dam allows DEC to reopen the full length of Gulf Brook Road to both pedestrians and motor vehicles for the first time since the storm. The cost for this portion of the project is approximately $300,000 supported by NY Works, and is part of DEC's strategic investments through the Adventure NY initiative to enhance public access to state lands and facilities and connect people with nature and the outdoors.
                        Additional work on road segments, signage, and several campsites is ongoing. Construction equipment may still be present in the vicinity of LaBier Flow Dam as finishing touches and cleanup concludes. Gulf Brook Road is a seasonal road that will close later in the fall or early winter once snow conditions prevent safe travel. The road will remain open to pedestrian use for the duration of the winter and reopen to motor vehicles in the spring following mud season.‚Äč

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                        • #13
                          Thank you for this update Dave. I guess it will be nice to have this access but then again it may get overused as well.

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                          • #14
                            *shrug* Increased use is the whole point of improved access.
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                            • #15
                              As per the press release, "...promote sustainable use". This will require monitoring and adjusting.
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