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  • chairrock
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    Originally posted by Buckladd View Post
    That area was hit hard last year with the gypsy moth infestation. During deer season, around our camp, the ground was almost grey and the trees were still green and leafing out in late October. It was really weird up there and we saw few deer and did not take a buck out of that area last year.

    Rumors are that NY will spray for the moths soon, but I don't know exactly where yet.
    . From the DEC.....
    "Beginning next week, NYSDEC will begin aerial spongy moth (formerly known as "gypsy moth") treatment in several of New York?s ecologically significant areas. The areas chosen are predicted to have a high level of spongy moth infestation according to survey efforts by regional DEC staff.
    Treatment will begin in Region 9 at Allegany State Park and Coyle, Rush Creek, and South Valley State Forests. Following treatment areas will be Sonyea State Forest in Region 8 and the Rome Sand Planes in Region 6.
    The aerial treatment being used is Gypchek?an NPV virus that only affects spongy moth larvae. The major goal of this project is to protect valuable forest ecosystems that have already suffered defoliation from spongy moth for multiple years. Of special concern are several endangered moth species in Allegany State Park, and the ecologically unique Rome Sand Planes, which is home to several rare plants, birds, and butterflies."

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  • Buckladd
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    Originally posted by wiiawiwb View Post
    That's great to know. Thank you.

    I went in yesterday with a hiking friend. We both noticed the total absence of anything moving about the woods. While there were birds chirping, there was not a chipmunk or squirrel to be seen or heard any where. Maybe the heat had them lying quietly in the the shadows.
    That area was hit hard last year with the gypsy moth infestation. During deer season, around our camp, the ground was almost grey and the trees were still green and leafing out in late October. It was really weird up there and we saw few deer and did not take a buck out of that area last year.

    Rumors are that NY will spray for the moths soon, but I don't know exactly where yet.

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  • wiiawiwb
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    That's great to know. Thank you.

    I went in yesterday with a hiking friend. We both noticed the total absence of anything moving about the woods. While there were birds chirping, there was not a chipmunk or squirrel to be seen or heard any where. Maybe the heat had them lying quietly in the the shadows.

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  • Dave Bourque
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    I have a camp nearby and I have not heard of any break-ins.

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  • Tick Magnet
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    Originally posted by wiiawiwb View Post
    The parking lot isn't that large. I saw a pull off area on Padarnum Spur road just before turn into the parking lot. Looks like you could park there although I'm not sure I want my car there exposed to whomever decides to stop and take a look.
    I can't speak about any break ins in the area, but I've always parked at the pull out along the spur road. Never had a problem.

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  • Buckladd
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    Originally posted by wiiawiwb View Post

    Is that an area that car break-ins occur?
    A lot of locals traverse the Spur road, can't say I've heard of any issues lately with vandalism at the parking area or camps.

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  • wiiawiwb
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    I went and hiked to the southern primitive site on Long Pond. Will head to Island Pond in the next week to find the primitive site on the southeast part of the pond. Very pretty area.

    The parking lot isn't that large. I saw a pull off area on Padarnum Spur road just before turn into the parking lot. Looks like you could park there although I'm not sure I want my car there exposed to whomever decides to stop and take a look.

    Is that an area that car break-ins occur?

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  • Tick Magnet
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    Glad you made it back there! It's such a neat place.

    As far as the Island Pond campsites, I think the site you labeled #3 should be to the southeast of where you have it plotted. You can easily bushwhack there from where the trail hits Island Pond or over the ridge from the north shore of Long Pond. I found it fairly easy to get there from Padanarum Rd.
    3g Island Pond.jpg

    I can't vouch for #4 as I've never checked it out, but it looks like there's a big swamp between it and the Grassville Rd. trail. More bushwhack opportunities.

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  • wiiawiwb
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    I finally made it to both Long and Island Ponds. What a beautiful area. I went to the DEC website and they show two primitive sites on each pond. I couldn't link up their map so I plotted them on the map below.

    Approaching from Padanarum Road, the two sites on Long Pond (#1 and #2) are on the east side. In order to easily access either of the two sites on Island Pond (#3 and #4), I think I'd need to approach it from Grassville Road.

    Has anyone been to any of the sites and which one would you recommend? Unless I missed a path, it looks like it will be a bushwhack to both of the ones on Long Pond. Does that sound right?
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    Last edited by wiiawiwb; 09-21-2021, 12:30 PM.

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  • Tick Magnet
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    Yes, there are several designated campsites on Long Pond. There's one large one on the north shore (possibly not designated). I thought the two on the south shore looked more secluded, have some good shore access and would probably have a better supply of firewood.

    2b LP DCS.jpg
    2d1 LP.jpg
    2g2 LP DCS.jpg

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  • wiiawiwb
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    Great help, thank you.

    Did anyone notice whether there was a place to put a tent down for the night at or on Long Pond?

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  • Buckladd
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    I hunt out of camp not too far from there, but seldom get over there (another group of guys does, however). But I did go in there a few years back just to check it out. The ridge just west of the trail as you go towards Long Pond has some good views, at least it did in Mid-November. A few years ago we fished Long Pond. I wanted to take my boat over to Island (photo) and try going down the channel, but we got a late start. Another time.
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  • Tick Magnet
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    Thanks for reading my TR!

    1.The last time I was there, there was no signage at the Padanarum Spur parking area ( i.e. Park Here), but agree with what everyone says, it's pretty obvious and there is a trail sign and barricade at the start of the walk.
    1a trail.jpg

    2. The beaver pond is fairly extensive, but the unmarked path around it is easy to follow. It branches off to the west (left) of the main trail and winds through some flooded woods. Can't hurt to take a compass bearing just in case. If the water level goes up another foot or two, parts of the detour will be under water as well.
    1g beaver dam.jpg

    3. I can't speak for the trail from Lily Pond as I've never walked it.

    One general comment. When you get to Island Pond, there's a really nice rock ledge on the eastern shore.
    3f IP.jpg
    No trail or footpath leads there. It's an easy bushwhack, but goes through some thick stuff and swampy areas (depending on which route you take).

    Have fun
    Last edited by Tick Magnet; 08-13-2021, 07:17 AM.

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  • Dave Bourque
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    My last visit was in 2019. At that time, by scouting around, I was able to avoid the wet areas and quickly return to the trail.

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  • Buckladd
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    [QUOTE=wiiawiwb;286753]:

    1) Is there a marked parking area on Padanarum Spur or do you pull off to the side of the road?

    Yes, the trail is marked and there is parking for four or five vehicles.

    2) It appears the trail from Padanarum Spur to Long Pond has a detour around wet spots. Is the detour route fairly visible or should I expect a bushwhack?

    Big beaver pond not too far in that you have to go around. After that, it's a nice road/trail that was once vehicle accessible.

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