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  • lj1
    Member
    • Jul 2005
    • 16

    #1

    new question

    thanks everyone for all the advice- im getting really excited. im going to go get my adk guidbook 2morrow. i found some info on cascade and porter. it seems from what i read that porter is trailed off of cascade, so its possible to do both in the same trip- is this true? and is this cheating LOL!? is porter an off shoot or is there a seperate start point? as far as the questions about my experience, i question that too! i used to hike quite a bit years ago, and i walked across Ireland (though it was mostly flat, but its been about 5 years since i attempted anything this grand. so again, im all about starting out small, esp. since this terrain is much more difficult. im hoping to get all the info i can this week so that i can start next sunday- any suggestions on what i might find that i would need in my pack- besides compass, water, map, flashlight, fleece, and trail mix- there is always something so apparent that is easy to miss. thanks again
  • redhawk
    Senior Resident Curmudgeon
    • Jan 2004
    • 10929

    #2
    Originally posted by lj1
    - any suggestions on what i might find that i would need in my pack- besides compass, water, map, flashlight, fleece, and trail mix- there is always something so apparent that is easy to miss. thanks again
    A couple of gallons of Ben-Gay or Heet!!
    Lots of Ibuprofin or Tylenol
    "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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    • Boreal Chickadee
      Member
      • Jul 2004
      • 1648

      #3
      Go up to Cascade's summit first and be prepared to go WOW. the start back down the trail and the spur to Porter branches off on your left (on the way down). It's a short little trip and well worth the bit of extra time. You'll drop down into the col, it really isn't very much and then a bit up Porter. Go for it.

      And yes multiple peaks in one trip count.

      Do this on a clear day and you'll understand why we go back over and over, fighting bugs, mud and miles to be on top of the world.
      Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
      It's about learning to dance in the rain.

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      • redhawk
        Senior Resident Curmudgeon
        • Jan 2004
        • 10929

        #4
        Originally posted by Peanut Butter
        Do this on a clear day and you'll understand why we go back over and over, fighting bugs, mud and miles to be on top of the world.
        I always thought it was drugs!! :drink:
        "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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        • Judgeh
          Member
          • Jun 2004
          • 1291

          #5
          Definitely try this on a clear day. Also, early in the day (unless you like crowds) as it tends to be a very popular hike being right off the road.

          A wonderful intro. to the Peaks!

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          • Neil
            Admin

            • May 2004
            • 6129

            #6
            Cascade and Porter are usually done together by peakbaggers. You can do these 2 peaks from 3 different routes. From the Garden, from Marcy field and Blueberry Mtn. (I havn't done either but from reading I would do it from Marcy Field - but, longer and more elev. gain) and the route most people take: from Cascade Lakes. I recently took a group of grade 6 girls who had never hiked up Cascade and from the Lakes and I think the round trip was about 4 hours. Add (a generous) 2 hours for Porter.
            The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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            • Dick
              somewhere out there...
              • Jan 2004
              • 2821

              #7
              Originally posted by lj1
              it seems from what i read that porter is trailed off of cascade, so its possible to do both in the same trip- is this true? and is this cheating LOL!?
              Not only can it be done in the same trip, it quite often is.

              Originally posted by j1
              is porter an off shoot or is there a seperate start point?
              As Peanut Butter mentioned, it's an offshoot, and the turnoff is well marked. It's about 1 1/2 miles r.t. from the Cascade trail to Porter and back. Basically you're walking down and up through a "tunnel" of trees until you come out on the Porter ridge. The trail is muddy in places and in rainy weather it can be a virtual stream, which might slow you down. The actual summit rock is rather non-distinct, but if you pass it, you'll know it immediately when you see the markers for the trail down to Blueberry Mt. and Marcy Airport (another longer way to do Porter). Some like Porter better than Cascade, though the crowds hang out at Cascade. Personally I think Porter has so-so views, but there is a rather cool view of Cascade from Porter.

              Originally posted by j1
              as far as the questions about my experience, i question that too!
              That is always a good question for anyone to ask! I think you'll find though that this mountain is quite doable, and is often done by "newbies" as their first high peak.

              Originally posted by j1
              any suggestions on what i might find that i would need in my pack- besides compass, water, map, flashlight, fleece, and trail mix- there is always something so apparent that is easy to miss. thanks again
              First aid.
              Raingear.
              Camera (!)

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              • JClimbs
                Callousedhand
                • Jul 2005
                • 436

                #8
                I would forego the flashlight and get a Tikka, Tikka Plus, or EOS headlamp (or one of BD's similar; mountaingear is selling one of them cheap this week). If you're heading out after dark, using a headlamp keeps your hands free for balance and grabbing things as needed. Also works well around camp: you can cook/clean/set up with both hands without trying to breath between clenched teeth...
                A good multi-tool or Swiss Army knife, a spare shoestring, and a yard or so of duct tape!

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                • Pat T
                  aka "Mother Nature"
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 164

                  #9
                  Consider doing Porter first--

                  Just a suggestion...once you get to the junction of the Porter/Cascade trails, the trail to Porter is really easy, almost relaxing, and gives you a break from climbing. From the top of Porter, you get a view of Cascade that is impressive.

                  Once you get back to Cascade, you are faced with a short but steep and rocky climb to the Cascade summit. As others have said, go early in the day to avoid crowds. It can be very, very windy on the summit so a fleece is a good idea, even in the summer.

                  Pat T

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                  • percious
                    Transplanted
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 734

                    #10
                    Personally, I think Porter has a better summit, so I would save that one for lunch. So it depends what time you are there. If you are hungry at the junction, head for Porter. If not, go for Cascade and save Porter for last.

                    -percious
                    http://www.percious.com

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                    • AntlerPerak
                      Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 316

                      #11
                      lj1 check out this web site it has good trail descriptions and pictures of every mountain. It will give you an idea of what each is like.

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                      • Rick
                        Bad Seed
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 350

                        #12
                        Don't forget a couple of bandannas to soak off the sweat from this oppressive heat and humidty.
                        Good Luck
                        Rick
                        Rick
                        The measure of your ignorance is your belief in tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the universe, the master calls the butterfly...
                        ...unknown...

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