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  • Crash
    Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 174

    #1

    Beaver or Otter

    I've always wanted to see otter in the wild.

    This past summer, I came across these two creatures. Not expecting to see otter in a heavily frequented area, I just assumed these two were beaver. Someone I know, who saw the picture of the two on the log, said that these are otters.

    I'm awful at identifying creatures. But in the photo, where the two are swimming, I believe I see a beaver tail. But I agree that the tail on the log does not look like a classic beaver tail.

    Second opinion?
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  • Hobbitling
    spring fever
    • May 2006
    • 2239

    #2
    Yup, otters. beavers dont have much of a neck. I think thats his butt, not his tail. Their bodies are pretty long.

    nice picture.
    He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.

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    • Swamp Booger
      Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 717

      #3
      Definitely otters! Nice going on getting pics of them! I saw one at Lake Durant a few years ago.
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      • ADKHUNTER
        Member
        • May 2007
        • 884

        #4
        Otters for sure. Greart Pics!

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        • Wldrns
          Member
          • Nov 2004
          • 4600

          #5
          Here's a beaver photo I snapped last summer in the Cowboy Beaver Meadow, just driftin' along.
          Compare the head and ear shape with yours.
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          "Now I see the secret of making the best person, it is to grow in the open air and to eat and sleep with the earth." -Walt Whitman

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          • chairrock
            Indian Mt.Club
            • Oct 2006
            • 2714

            #6
            Originally posted by Crash
            I've always wanted to see otter in the wild.

            This past summer, I came across these two creatures. Not expecting to see otter in a heavily frequented area, I just assumed these two were beaver. Someone I know, who saw the picture of the two on the log, said that these are otters.

            I'm awful at identifying creatures. But in the photo, where the two are swimming, I believe I see a beaver tail. But I agree that the tail on the log does not look like a classic beaver tail.

            Second opinion?
            The ones in the smaller pic are otter, but the ones in the first pic,the larger one, looks like beaver. Were they the same critters in both pics? I only ask because the pics are different sizes...
            Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

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            • toothlessannie
              Member
              • May 2007
              • 167

              #7
              Looks to me like two different sets of furbearers, Beaver in the first, Otter in the second.

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              • chairrock
                Indian Mt.Club
                • Oct 2006
                • 2714

                #8
                Originally posted by toothlessannie
                Looks to me like two different sets of furbearers, Beaver in the first, Otter in the second.
                I agree, you can see the noses on the beavers, hard to mistake that nose when you have worked with a few up close and personal.It is amazing how those teeth curl up inside the sinuses and lower jaw...
                Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

                When a dog runs at you,whistle for him.
                Henry David Thoreau

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                • Starshadow
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 189

                  #9
                  I see otters in both pics.
                  Sitting quietly, doing nothing, spring
                  comes and the grass grows by itself.

                  Zen Proverb

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                  • Bill I.
                    Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1587

                    #10
                    Both pictures look like otters to me. Yes, the first picture also bears a strong resemblance to beavers, but if you compare the eyes and ears you can see they are the same individuals in both images.

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                    • chairrock
                      Indian Mt.Club
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 2714

                      #11
                      I think we need to check the DNA or the dental records!
                      Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

                      When a dog runs at you,whistle for him.
                      Henry David Thoreau

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                      • Hobbitling
                        spring fever
                        • May 2006
                        • 2239

                        #12
                        and notice that the beaver snout has a sort of wide crest or bulge on top, wile the otter head snout is relatively flat on top.

                        Thats the tooth sinus Chairock is talking about. only about 1/4 of the tooth actually shows. the rest is anchored in the skull. The whole tooth, root and all, is around 3-4 inches long!
                        Last edited by Hobbitling; 03-05-2008, 11:33 AM.
                        He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.

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                        • chairrock
                          Indian Mt.Club
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2714

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hobbitling
                          and notice that the beaver snout has a sort of wide crest or bulge on top, wile the otter head snout is relatively flat on top.

                          Thats the tooth sinus Chairock is talking about. only about 1/4 of the tooth actually shows. the rest is anchored in the skull. The whole tooth, root and all, is around 3-4 inches long!
                          Thanks Halfling! Ive seen them longer...4-6 inches--amazing how they grow out, no wonder they have to chew so much, ahh rodents The lower mandible is the same, goes way back ....
                          Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

                          When a dog runs at you,whistle for him.
                          Henry David Thoreau

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                          • Bill I.
                            Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1587

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hobbitling
                            Thats the tooth sinus Chairock is talking about. only about 1/4 of the tooth actually shows. the rest is anchored in the skull. The whole tooth, root and all, is around 3-4 inches long!
                            I posted this picture a while back on the "Beaver Meadow" thread. The entire tooth was as long as one of my fingers.

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                            • chairrock
                              Indian Mt.Club
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 2714

                              #15
                              Yah, our dogs brought some skulls home one winter also, a couple of guys had cleaned out some problem beavers near camp and had just taken the pelts,critters ate everything but the skulls.
                              Be careful, don't spread invasive species!!

                              When a dog runs at you,whistle for him.
                              Henry David Thoreau

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