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What do you think? Is digital winning over film? Are there times when you would rather have film? Lets hear from more photographers and get your views on this. Do you think film will always be with us or will it go the way of vinyl records?
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84Digital is going to be the future, maybe sooner than later0%51Film will never die, electronic imaging can never meet the quality0%12Both will always be with us and it won't be much different than it is now0%20All I use are disposable camers so who cares0%1"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
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Film v. Digits
Professionals and artists like my wife Ellen, Carl Heilmann III, Rudi Hargesheimer and, of course, Nathan Farb, are always going to use film. The results are better overall, and the format is easier to modify for production and publication. That being said, we just bought a new printer last night that is photo-capable, and we'll probably get a digital camera for "point-and-shoot" stuff (We have three grandkids under two years old!) before Christmas."Come to the Forest, where the other you lives!" -
I agree and feel that to go even deeper would reveal that film has a warmth, an ambience and a texture not present in digital photography. I would compare film to analog audio recording. While digital audiois cleaner and doesn't have the pops and scratches that a vinyl record would vinyl records have a depth and a natural feeling that is lost in the sterility of the digital medium. Digital is great for it's ability to capture otherwise difficult lighting as well as it's ability to be manipulated after the image by most people. But images on film can be manipulated or crafted in ways not available with digital images. I just wish we still had Kodachrome or a better "environmenal alternative.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
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They'll both be around for the reasons stated.
I'm glad I have gone digital, the Pentax I had in college would suck to have to carry the extra weight when all I really need is the snapshot. Not to mention transferring the film to digital anyways because I need to upload it to my server to add to my journal, etc.Comment
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I hope we get to see more cameras that do both in the future. The original dual format camera were crude to say the least but new models would be awesome. I know pro versions would be very nice and give a lot of photographers a lot of capacity in terms of an awesome tool while a pocket version with a good optical zoom and light weight would be a good camera for the majority of us here."Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
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Professionals are going to use whatever is best for the task at hand, be it digital or film. I think the comparison to vinyl records is convenient, but incorrect. Digital technology is constantly evolving, and while I do love film dearly, am always open to using whatever gives me the best results for a given situation.
Imagine a digital camera with a 20 stop range that shoots Velvia-like quality at whatever shutter speed you want - that is what I see in less than 10 years. Or at least dream of
I am holding out for now (to film), but Canon's new flagship is definitely starting to get my attention. Also, more magazine editors are becoming more digitally savvy, accepting quality digital files in lieu of slides - but many have yet to make this transition.
All things in good time - I'll be glad to embrace both
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DIGI FOR ME...
I think that both have a place. Digital is my fav at the moment (just for ease of use) but I'd eventually like to get more into film when the spirit moves me...
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Tim,
Are you referring to the EOS-1DS?"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
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Yes, that would be the one.Are you referring to the EOS-1DS?
If I had $8000 spare change, I'd buy one tomorrow.
At least I wouldn't spend my life "dustbusting" and waiting for the scanner
"It is the silence of this wilderness that most impressed me"
Reverend William Henry Harrison Murray, of his sojurn to the Adirondacks - 1869Comment
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Since I don't have that much right now I am going to get a 10D instead and see how I like it. It looks to be a pretty good camera also.Originally posted by Tim Seaver
Yes, that would be the one.
If I had $8000 spare change, I'd buy one tomorrow.
At least I wouldn't spend my life "dustbusting" and waiting for the scanner
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat."
~~Theodore Roosevelt~~Comment
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I scan my prints at high resolution (600-1200) dpi and save then as tiff files.
I am then able to enlarge them in PSP witout a quality loss and I can convert the dpi lower if i wish to print them or post them on the web.
About a week ago at a show, a fellow photographer had about 30 prints on display. I was looking at the prints and pointed to one and asked him if it had been taken with a digital camera. He replied that it was and that it was the only one and how did I know?
I don't know how I knew, I just did.
Enough said!"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. JohnsonComment
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Color did'nt kill B&W....
And Video did'nt kill the Radio Star...
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As an artistic medium film will never die. As I like to point out almost no established art medium has ever died. Prehistoric humans drew with charcoal and sculpted in stone, and some artists still do - even though easier and potentially more creative methods exist. The black and white analogy is a good one. Most people interested in recording their life's experiences long ago moved from B&W to color, and they will increasingly move to digital. I believe the current statistics are that about 98% of the film consumed worldwide is color print film, and the vast majority of that is 35mm or smaller formats. Similarly as digital quality and convenience improves it will dominate about 98% of the photographic market. Professionals also will increasingly discover the creative potential of digital. But like B&W and other art mediums film will never die.
I have seen statements that the best 35mm color slide films are the equivalent of photos from a hypothetical 20 megapixel camera. Those statements keep upping the ante on megapixels partly because films are still improving. Anybody in the photo business will need to give digital a serious look to remain competitive. Newspapers and news magazines have already embraced the technology for its convenience. Current digital quality is more than adequate for newsprint and the internet.
I have also been waiting for something like the 11 megapixel Canon 1DS, mainly to utilize my current 35mm lenses. The cost will need to come down before I would buy it or its future replacement. In the meantime I am in the market for a compact digital camera to take hiking. I need a camera that accepts filters. For me a polarizer filter is a must.
The digital photos I see on this and other hiking forums are excellent. The time to take the plunge is here, but I will still use film cameras frequently. I am kind of addicted to Fujichrome Velvia, and it takes a bit of manipulation in the digital lightroom/desktop to get color as good as Velvia.Comment
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cokin has a very flexible system of filters that work with practically any compact digital. it's basically a series of rectangular filters, and you get the filter adaptor that best suits your camera. So really any camera can handle filters nowadays.
they also have larger format filters that work with SLR's. same idea, you have different adaptors for the different lens, and you only have to have one of each filter, instead of all different sizes for each lens. Also very nice for gradient filters since you can adjust the angle and location of the gradient "horizon"He found himself wondering at times, especially in the autumn, about the wild lands, and strange visions of mountains that he had never seen came into his dreams.Comment
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