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  • jisco
    Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 7

    #1

    Which Mapsource Product?

    Hi!
    I recently purchased a "Garmin GPS MAP60" and need advice.
    I live in S.E. Ohio and need a Mapsource Topo CD for this area and would like your opimion on exactly what to buy.

    Thanks for your time,

    J. Coyan
  • Kevin
    **BANNED**
    • Nov 2003
    • 5857

    #2
    I don't use the mapsource for anything but the GPS maps. I believe you really only have one choice in product for loading maps into the GPS:



    I plot everything on the National Geographics's Topo! software, then export waypoints to the GPS. Mapsource has been used ONCE since buying my latest Garmin GPS. I just loaded the maps I knew I would want/need on a whim (had 24MB available to store them, more than enough memory).

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    • Qby
      Qby Newbie
      • Aug 2006
      • 25

      #3
      Actually, there are a few more choices.

      The US Topo 24K National Parks, East V2 includes the Adirondack State Park:



      I don't have it yet -- I've ordered it but it hasn't arrived -- but I believe he could extract maps for the Adirondacks from it and download it to the GPSMAP 60.

      The literature says the 24K product is based on the 1:24,000 scale paper charts provided by the United States Geological Survey (USGS), which is the most detailed topographical data available.

      This link shows some screens:



      Brian

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      I do want to emphasize, though, that I don't yet have this product in hand. The original Garmin 24K Topo East data got pretty poor reviews. V2 is supposed to be an improvement. But, since I don't have it yet, I can't vouch for that. Perhaps someone else who has v2 can give him better advice.
      Last edited by Qby; 08-10-2006, 08:27 PM.

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      • AdRegion
        TourPro
        • Dec 2004
        • 318

        #4
        For national coverage the regular Mapsource Topo is pretty OK. The 24K for the East is great for the Adirondacks. I also use Metroguide quite frequently. It is amazing how many versions of Mapsource are around. Buying many versions can add up though. The proliferation of mapping products is just plain crazy. For fun, NASA World Wind with the GPS plugin is just the tops. Or you can pay for the fancy Google Earth.
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        • NukedRocket
          Yeah, buddy!
          • Jan 2004
          • 564

          #5
          One caveat to the National Parks East version (for me at least) is that it does not cover the Catskills.
          Sometimes I think better with my head in the clouds...

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          • jisco
            Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 7

            #6
            Big Thanks

            I want to thank you guys for your opinions.
            I thought that I only had 2 choices. "Mapsource Topo" or "Mapsource Topo Eastern U.S."
            I just need a decent topo for Southeastern Ohio.
            I do all of my hunting in this area and for now anyway I just want to keep things simple.
            I'm new to GPS and slowly learning to use it.
            I really appreciate your help.
            One more thing, I'd love to see the Adirondacks some day.
            Thanks again,

            jisco

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            • redhawk
              Senior Curmudgeon
              • Jan 2004
              • 10929

              #7
              Originally posted by jisco
              I want to thank you guys for your opinions.
              I thought that I only had 2 choices. "Mapsource Topo" or "Mapsource Topo Eastern U.S."
              I just need a decent topo for Southeastern Ohio.
              I do all of my hunting in this area and for now anyway I just want to keep things simple.
              I'm new to GPS and slowly learning to use it.
              I really appreciate your help.
              One more thing, I'd love to see the Adirondacks some day.
              Thanks again,

              jisco
              If you want to upload maps into your Garmin GPS, those are the only 2 choices along with metroguide which is not topographic.

              The other programs will allow you to transfer waypoints, routes and tracks but not the maps.

              Southeast Ohio had topography?
              "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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              • jisco
                Member
                • Jul 2006
                • 7

                #8
                Thanks redhawk

                Thanks for the reply redhawk
                The way I understand it is, I need the
                "Mapsource Topo Eastern U.S." version.
                Is that right?

                thanks again,

                jisco

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                • redhawk
                  Senior Curmudgeon
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10929

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jisco
                  Thanks for the reply redhawk
                  The way I understand it is, I need the
                  "Mapsource Topo Eastern U.S." version.
                  Is that right?

                  thanks again,

                  jisco
                  Qby brought up the Garmin national Parks 1:24000 scale which also covers the Adirondacks (and which I was ignorant about). You can see if that if compatable with your gps. i don't think its compatable with all the garmin gps's, you can check the garmin website to verify.

                  I can't tell you which is best. I know if you get the mapsource topo, it's for the whole contry, including Alaska and Hawaii. Although it does not have as much detail as the 1:24000 software, i have found it works fine for my purposes, showing enough of what is around me to keep me out of trouble. I do have the luxury of having NG Topo as well to use for planning at home and then transferring the waypoints, routes and tracks to my gps.

                  The other consideration might also be memory. I can put all of NY State in my 24 egs of memory, I ould guess that the amount of the 1:24000 scale would be much less.

                  So I guess it depends what your needs (or wants) are. I am hoping to get the Garmin Nat parks east 1:24000 to be able to evaluate and review.

                  if and when i do, i will report on it here.
                  "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                  • jisco
                    Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Thanks Again

                    Thanks redhawk, I'm gonna read as much as I can find about these Two and go from there.
                    I'll let you know which one I decide on when I'm ready to order.
                    Thanks again,

                    jisco

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                    • redhawk
                      Senior Curmudgeon
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10929

                      #11
                      Garmin Mapsource Topo 24K national parks v2

                      Finally got this software to check it out. It installs itself as a part of the mapsource Yopo and Metroguide that i already had, usinf the exact same interface, You switch software maps (Metroguide, Topo and 24K national parks east" via a drop down menu. oddly, like my other versions of metroguide, it asks to be installed twice, but installs fine nevertheless.

                      It may be 1/24000 scale but it does not have the detail that either National Geographics Topo, Terrain Navigator or Topofusion has.

                      it is an improvement over Garmins Mapsource Topo in that it is more accurate. With the rgular topo, All three of the falls in the raquette river are miles from where they should be (based on waypoints taken in the field). With the 24k version, the upper Falls and raquette falls are dead on, but the lower falls is 1567 feet off to the Northeast. It does show more trails then the standard topo, but not as many as the above mentioned programs. it also indicates wetlands.

                      Also of note, depending on what your garmin unit is, With my Garmin RINO 130, which has 24 megs of memory, and Mapsource topo, I can load almost all of new Your State into the unit. With the 24K National parks topo software, the whole Adirondack Park is 71.7 megabytes which means that I can only load a third of the park at a time.

                      In my estimation, the improvement of detail does not make it even close to a better deal then the regular version of Mapsource topo. With that version, you get the whole USA, including Hawaii and Alaska. With the National parks version east yiou get just a few of the national parks and the Adirondack park. The 24k information is not that much better then the regular.

                      I could have put this in the review section, but I thought it was best served here. You can check the pricing and other specs at Garmin.com

                      Bottom Line, I've got it, I'll use it, but seeing the difference i would not recommend buying it instead of Mapsource Topo.
                      "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                      • AdRegion
                        TourPro
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 318

                        #12
                        I think the 24K East version is also more suited to those hiking the AT.

                        I've got both and all of RedHawk's observations are spot on. When it comes to accuracy, there is hardly any mapping product that will be 100% perfect. I like to do a double check using USA Photomaps or mashing a GPX file using GPS Visualizer. Best part is seeing your track, after the fact, on actual USGS topomaps.

                        I have no opinion on price/value.
                        Adirondack Base Camp
                        Adirondack Trailhead

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                        • jisco
                          Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 7

                          #13
                          I've Decided

                          Thanks for the review Redhawk.
                          I've decided to order the Garmin Mapsource Topo.

                          Jisco

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