What sort of stove do you generally carry?

[Dick]

Scrapple has come a long way, traditionally it is made from all the scraps of a pig, innards, ears ,etc.
However a much healthier blend can easily be made at home today.

http://teriskitchen.com/padutch/scrapple.html

Served with maple syrup.YUM!

But then is it really scrapple???

(squeamish alert):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEx1Lb1ffZQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haKDDHOesr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxUKJOlb9gM&feature=related

http://www.watchseriesonlinehere.com/dirty-jobs-s08e18-scrapple-maker/

[bluequill]

I really enjoy scrapple and my two favorites are Habbersatts ( found in supermarkets) and the other from an Amish dealer in Philadelphia's Reading Terminal Market. Scrapple needs to be sliced to 3/8" thick, dusted with seasoned flour, and pan fried in a little oil under medium heat until browned well on both sides. Most scrapple contains cornmeal and buckwheat flour along with the pork stock and seasonings. Good stuff!

To keep with the OP, it cooks well on my Svea 123.

[DSettahr]

When I first voted on this thread some years ago, I voted "White Gas Only," since at the time the only stove I had (and of course mainly used) was an MSR Whisperlite.

Since then, however, I've invested in an MSR PocketRocket that uses butane canisters. It has become my stove of choice for several reasons: It's light, it's easy to cook a wide variety of meals (it can simmer which is difficult for the Whisperlite to do), and it's compact.

I still own and occasionally use the Whisperlite though- there are a few situations when it makes more sense to have instead of the PocketRocket. For example, when you are cooking for multiple people (the PocketRocket works best for a single person), or when I am out in cold temperatures (canisters lose a lot of efficiency in the cold).

[EHiker]

I use two halves of pop cans. I really enjoy the simplicity of the homemade alcohol stove. I took it for a spin January 1st and although it wasn't that cold (I think it was mid 30's that weekend), it boiled water and made me some oatmeal in just over five minutes. I use HEET for fuel. I know they aren't the best option in ALL situations but there really isn't anything that can beat a pop can stove for simplicity and weight.

https://picasaweb.google.com/116601305890914290605/Gear#5597020760011816290

[Dick]

When I first voted on this thread some years ago, I voted "White Gas Only," since at the time the only stove I had (and of course mainly used) was an MSR Whisperlite.

Since then, however, I've invested in an MSR PocketRocket that uses butane canisters. It has become my stove of choice for several reasons: It's light, it's easy to cook a wide variety of meals (it can simmer which is difficult for the Whisperlite to do), and it's compact.

I still own and occasionally use the Whisperlite though- there are a few situations when it makes more sense to have instead of the PocketRocket. For example, when you are cooking for multiple people (the PocketRocket works best for a single person), or when I am out in cold temperatures (canisters lose a lot of efficiency in the cold).

We still use an MSR PocketRocket stove. However, there is another stove I'd like to put out there for the forum to comment upon (we'd be using it to boil water for rehydration and "tea/coffee" only, not to "cook"):

http://www.rei.com/product/785338
http://www.moosejaw.com/moosejaw/sho...8_10000001_-1_
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/revi...yl%20McMurray/
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/revi...0Mike%20Curry/

Lots of additional positive reviews. In addition to being lighter than the Pocket Rocket, it seems to be better for cold temps and high altitiude. FYI, we're boiling water for rehydration and tea only.

Thoughts on this stove?

Dick

[DSettahr]

However, there is another stove I'd like to put out there for the forum to comment upon (we'd be using it to boil water for rehydration and "tea/coffee" only, not to "cook"):

Looks like a decent enough stove, but I'm not sure it's worth spending an extra 30 bucks to lose 0.4 ounces in weight.

[Dick]

Looks like a decent enough stove, but I'm not sure it's worth spending an extra 30 bucks to lose 0.4 ounces in weight.

It's not just the weight. In fact, that's really secondary. It appears to work better at high altitudes (we're hiking the John Muir Trail this summer), and also seems to work better in cold temperatures.

Dick

[KEG]

I'm tempted to pick up the jetboil sol since fires aren't allowed on one of my trips this summer. I see the fuel efficiency the main advantage over my old primus and it takes up less space than the previous version.

[crkmeup]

This question's answer is to pick the right stove for the trip.

Winter conditions or large group- White gas. Burns great even at very cold conditions. Gets soup in me quick when I am cold.

3 season trip with only cooking for one or two people freezer bag cooking- homemade alcohol stove. Boils small amounts of water in just a few minutes. Fuel is cheap and so is the stove. Very little fiddle factor. Stove and 5 days fuel weighes 1-1 1/2 pounds.

Longer 3 season trip- Wood burning stove. 1 pound weight no fuel needed beyond cotton balls w/vasiline and a battery. This runs on sticks and batteries. I have replaced the battery holder so now it runs on either AA or AAA. One new AA goes about 2 weeks of cooking for one. The down side is the fiddle
factor. You have to collect two full handfuls of sticks and light them. it is not hard but if I am hiking with other who pull out a canister stove and light it I do feel a little jealous. My longest trips have been 2 weeks and it is nice not to carry that much fuel.

I rotate between these stoves on Boy Scout outings to demonstrate the differences and options to the boys. They enjoy learning the theory behind the choices and have made their own wood burners and alcohol stoves.

[jbrown]

More often than not: MSR pocket rocket with Jetboil canisters
Secondary choice: Wood fire, either hang the pot on a cantilevered branch, or directly on coals.
Third option, haven't used it in years: homemade alcohol stove.

[WinterWarlock]

It's not just the weight. In fact, that's really secondary. It appears to work better at high altitudes (we're hiking the John Muir Trail this summer), and also seems to work better in cold temperatures.

Dick

Dick -

Check with Bill(andJudy) about his stove...I can't remember which canister it is, but I know he uses it because it still works well at cold temps. Given that, I'd expect it to also work well at altitude...

[DuctTape]

The ability to use canister stoves in cold temps is more a function of the canister contents than the stove itself. the vaporization point of the different fuels determine how well the stove will work in colder temps. Most canisters use a mixture of fuels (isobutane,, butane and/or propane). Since these are mixtures, the fuels with the lower vaporization point will be used up before the higher (especially true when the temp is well below the higher vp).

propane -43F
isobutane 11F
butane 31F

Thus a butane canister will cease to work below 31F, but if the canister is a mixxture of butane and propane it will work great until the propane runs out (which burns first). for those who use canisters you might have experienced this phenomena especially with a peak1 canister stove which is a mixture of butane and propane. Most other canisters use a mixture of iso and propane (in different proportions). The colder the temp (below 11F) the more propane % you want like the MSR IsoPro). If you are above 11F then iso will still vaporize, though it gets more difficult as you use the stove since the release of the pressure actually cools the canister. Thus, when people talk about "cold temps" it is important to find out what is meant by "cold" and the stove itself is less important than the fuel mixture in the canister (though some designs can maximize the efficiency of the fuel, they cannot change the vaporization point of the fuel).

[gregpphoto]

Not necessarily true. I have the MSR pocket rocket (3 oz) with a Backcountry 700ml titanium pot (4.5 oz). Jetboil by itself without fuel is 15 oz. So I save half the weight and since the pocket rocket fits inside the pot, its a lot smaller than the jetboil. The only real advantage to jetboil is it does boil very quickly and works pretty well even in the wind.

I'm primarily a Jetboil backpacker now, for ease and minimal weight (since it's ALL I carry). I still own but rarely use a Primus canister stove. But stove, fuel, and pots/pans weigh more than a single Jetboil, and take up more pack space.

[kayakfitz]

My primary stove is the optimus 8R. Love the compact design, and ability to balance the stove when a flat surface is unavailable. My next choice is the MSR Whisperlite Int.

[Commissionpoint]

This is a good one to resurrect. Some people have probably changed gear since this was last discussed.

I use a jetboil in warm months an old skewl bluet in the shoulder seasons (still the fastest most reliable stove I own albeit a bit heavy), and white gas when the mercury really starts to dip.

I have used some homemade alcohol burners in the past as well and can see myself using them again at some point on distance hikes.

Whars everyone else using these days?