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Where can I get a waterproof compression sack? EMS told me no one makes one. I don't buy that! However they did sell me a waterproof sack by Granite Gear last year that has two straps, not four, like most compression sacks. So we are half way there! I can't believe someone would make a compression sack, but not out of a waterproof material??? Oops, wait! What's this? Waterproof Compression Sack Did EMS provide me with faulty information? Posh! They tried to sell me a dry bag for kayaking in it's place. I didn't think it was light weight enough nor small enough for backpacking. But I like that Granite Gear comes through again!
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Buy a regular compression sack and put it inside a garbage bag.A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.
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Or even put a garbage bag inside the compressions sack. I use zip lock backs for socks and standard plastic grocery bags for my other clothing, then stuff it all inside the compression sack. Call me cheap, but it works.Originally posted by lumberzacComment
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You can make compression sacks out of a waterproof material, the problem is in the seal. Even a dry bag cannot guarantee that your stuff wil stay dry when submerged.
I figure I only need the waterproof when I am canoing or kayaking. For backpacking, I use zip locks for my firemaking stuff, tp and I carry a XS dry bag for my camera.
I rely on my outdoor research waterproof pack cover and I carry one or two large plastic trash bags for contingincies. I have yet to get my gear wet using the pack cover.
If I were hiking somewhere that I thought I might have to ford a river with water up to my chest, I would just use one of my large dry bags as a liner inside my pack.
However, I try to avoid those situations. Right Sacco? Right Zach?
"If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. JohnsonComment
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I put my 15 down bag (Marmot) in the manufacturer's basic sack that came with the bag, cover it with a plastic garbage liner (covers the entire bag), put it in a large black construction bag with my other gear (including a couple of small clear drybags), and it all goes into my pack (and I have a cover for that). I figure my stuff stays pretty dry.
My other bag (North Face) is a problem. Both my boys had similar ones. They're rated zero (the bags, not the boys!). It's made of the old Polarguard, which is bulky and quite un-stuffable. Although I can wrestle it into my pack, it takes up way too much room. So it goes on my pack, which wasn't a huge problem until bear canisters came along! I know I'll be in the market next spring for a new bag and new pack. Redhawk, if you're still interested in the old pack then (you've seen it), you're welcome to it.Comment
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Jeff,
You've received several suggestions here on how to keep your gear dry. I'd say the Granite Gear bags are pretty watertight unless you completely submerge the opening.
When you think about it there may be a fundamental engineering problem with trying to create a waterproof compression sack. As the exterior watertight (and presumably also airtight) covering is compressed, how does the air escape unless there is a porous area from which the air may escape? It's like squeezing on a balloon full of air. But having an escape hole makes it not totally waterproof - unless you can later seal it after compression.
One possible solution may be to have a sealable relief valve. That's essentially what Eric Knudsen has done with the design of the knupac drybag. Open the valve on the side of the bag (looks like a large version of an air mattress valve), roll down and buckle the top opening seal, the air escapes, then close the valve."Now I see the secret of making the best person, it is to grow in the open air and to eat and sleep with the earth." -Walt WhitmanComment
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Originally posted by redhawkHowever, I try to avoid those situations. Right Sacco? Right Zach?
what? you'll have to speak up.
i've still got water in my ears from crossing piseco outlet in may.
i use home made silnylon stuff sacks. lightest stuff you'll find, very cheap and customized to sizes i want.
if i there's a chance of being completely submerged then i use a garbage bag to line the inside of the whole pack.Fly Fisher's Anglers Association- a fine drinking club with a fishing problem
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Sacco- If you didn't have that down bag, you wouldn't have to worry about it getting wet now would you??
(just kidding...)
At least if it was wet you wouldn't have to worry about that featherweight blowing away...
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ha ha!
i keep all my stuff in silnylon bagsFly Fisher's Anglers Association- a fine drinking club with a fishing problem
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Have you been out in it lately?Comment
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nope. just the one catskill trip last month. i'll be out in january.Fly Fisher's Anglers Association- a fine drinking club with a fishing problem
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Not compression sacks but if you want waterproof, these are Navy Approved waterproofness to 200 feet for 48 hours.
They're like zip locks bags
Also check out their odor barrier bags. These prevent bears from smelling the contents.
Prices are good also.Last edited by redhawk; 12-13-2004, 08:13 PM."If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. JohnsonComment
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Jeff,
I don't know if it's what you're looking for, but I noticed that Campmor sells a variety of Hydroseal stuff sacks:
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LOL!!! You must be a proud dad!!!!!!!Originally posted by Dick
Rick
The measure of your ignorance is your belief in tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the universe, the master calls the butterfly...
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Jeff, Can I ask for what purpose do you want the waterproof compression sack?
I ask this only for the reason that it might appear you are looking for something for your winter bag rather than for a 3-season bag?
As it stands, I don't really worry too much about waterproof-ability of my compression sack in true winter conditions (I mean conditions colder than 25d like we experience in the Daks).
For warmer winter weather where their might be rain in the forecast, (25d-40d) I have learned either not to go out in bitter cold rain (and forego any personal satisfaction that I might gain from being able to keep myself warm and dry in the worst weather), or to simply make it a dayhike and be somewhere warm and sheltered at the end of the day.
With that said, if you are still really looking for a waterproof compression stuff sack, I would go with what most have mentioned - a good compression sack and then stick it in a garbage bag and twist the top off before putting the whole thing in the bottom of your pack.
As for keeping any other gear dry - a Generation of old heavy OR Hydroseal stuff sacks sits in my gear box, Most with the inside laminate finally starting to crack and peel off the nylon.
I'm with Sacco on sylnylon, I bought 3 sylnylon stuff sacks for clothes & food and I love them - extremely light. Everything else goes into Ziplock Gallon size freezer bags - They are cheap and easily replaceable.Rick
The measure of your ignorance is your belief in tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the universe, the master calls the butterfly...
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