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  • starbaby
    Member
    • Jun 2004
    • 126
    #1

    bear cables

    Greetings,

    Can anyone give me a reading on wether or not there are those steel cable arangements for hanging food (to keep them from Yogi and Booboo) in the Flowed Lands, Lake Colden Area?

    I have seen these things in the Avalanch lean-to area but am wondering if they are also in the area specified above?

    Also, does anyone have an estimate of the reliability factor for said cables? That is, if I hang my food on them, what is the probability that I will have breakfast the next morning, as opposed to a bag full of bear slobber?

    Last, I understand that there will soon be DEC regulations to have a certified bear canister for your food for overnight camping in the Adirondacks. Does anyone know the exact date when it goes into effect?

    Thanks,

    SB
    If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master,
    If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim,
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same...

    Rudyard Kipling
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    • wiltz101
      Member
      • Mar 2005
      • 51
      #2
      There are cables in the Flowed Lands and Lake Colden area, i have never used them because the trees they are attached to have claw marks all the way up to the cable. I have hung a bag in that area during the off season (late fall, early spring) and didn't have my bag taken. Generally if i am going in that area i find someone with a canister to go with me. I also avoid that area after mid to late june because of the large numbers of people. I'm sure other members of the forum will have better and more accurate info for you.
      "all conservation is self-defeating, for to cherish we must see and fondle, and when enough have seen and fondled, there is no wilderness left to cherish." -Aldo Leopold

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        • redhawk
          Senior Resident Curmudgeon
          • Jan 2004
          • 10929
          #3
          The cables didn't work.

          Bears figured it out......

          Bears are very smart........

          Humans don't give bears credit for being smart........

          Bears are smarter then humans......

          I Like Bears.......

          I don't have much use for humans........
          "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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            • Dick
              somewhere out there...
              • Jan 2004
              • 2821
              #4
              They are there. They apparently don't work. I can't give you a probability estimate, but I wouldn't use them, personally. There is a public comment period (required by law) which goes from May 18 to July 5. I presume it would go into effect shortly after that. See this notice, posted elsewhere on this forum:
              http://www.adkforum.com/showthread.php?t=2365

              Dick

              Originally posted by starbaby
              Greetings,

              Can anyone give me a reading on wether or not there are those steel cable arangements for hanging food (to keep them from Yogi and Booboo) in the Flowed Lands, Lake Colden Area?

              I have seen these things in the Avalanch lean-to area but am wondering if they are also in the area specified above?

              Also, does anyone have an estimate of the reliability factor for said cables? That is, if I hang my food on them, what is the probability that I will have breakfast the next morning, as opposed to a bag full of bear slobber?

              Last, I understand that there will soon be DEC regulations to have a certified bear canister for your food for overnight camping in the Adirondacks. Does anyone know the exact date when it goes into effect?

              Thanks,

              SB

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                • ADackR
                  livin' it
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 113
                  #5
                  the cables at flowed lands are behind the lean-to with out the floor. like others have said the trees holding the cables have claw makes up and down on them..

                  when i was there i successfully used them for two days by use of the counter balance method. i also taught some others how to use this method and they were find. the bear trying to get my food was at least 6 foot and between 350-450lbs...

                  but if you have uneasy feelings about these cables there are some great trees to hang in the area, provided you properly use the counter balance method....

                  good luck

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                    • starbaby
                      Member
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 126
                      #6
                      Thanks guys. In the end, we used bear canisters. As an asside, we where in the flowed lands 2 nights and we did not see a single bear sighting, nor any evidence of any bears.

                      SB
                      If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master,
                      If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim,
                      If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
                      And treat those two impostors just the same...

                      Rudyard Kipling

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                        • lumberzac
                          Beware of the Lumberzac
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1730
                          #7
                          Originally posted by starbaby
                          Thanks guys. In the end, we used bear canisters. As an asside, we where in the flowed lands 2 nights and we did not see a single bear sighting, nor any evidence of any bears.

                          SB
                          That's excellent news.
                          A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.

                          http://community.webshots.com/user/lumberzac

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                            • redhawk
                              Senior Resident Curmudgeon
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10929
                              #8
                              Originally posted by starbaby
                              Thanks guys. In the end, we used bear canisters. As an asside, we where in the flowed lands 2 nights and we did not see a single bear sighting, nor any evidence of any bears.

                              SB
                              When did you go in to the flowed lands? and from which trailhead?
                              "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                                • kwc
                                  loser
                                  • Apr 2004
                                  • 1300
                                  #9
                                  Schenectady Gazette article

                                  Front page article in this morning's Gazette (Friday) about bear canisters ... there's a paragraph in the article which states that ALL of the bear cables in the High Peaks region are going to be taken down "this week".

                                  Unfortunately there's no link to the online edition of the Gazette 'cause they want you to pay for it!
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                                    • redhawk
                                      Senior Resident Curmudgeon
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 10929
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by kwc
                                      Front page article in this morning's Gazette (Friday) about bear canisters ... there's a paragraph in the article which states that ALL of the bear cables in the High Peaks region are going to be taken down "this week".

                                      Unfortunately there's no link to the online edition of the Gazette 'cause they want you to pay for it!
                                      About time they took out the Bear Cable.

                                      Them bears was getting fat and lazy hanging out and watching Gentle Ben
                                      "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                                        • redhawk
                                          Senior Resident Curmudgeon
                                          • Jan 2004
                                          • 10929
                                          #11
                                          The DEC has requested that people who are approched by bears asking for quarters, refrain from giving them to them.

                                          It seems the bears have been using the quarters to gain access to some of the bear canisters.
                                          "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                                            • lumberzac
                                              Beware of the Lumberzac
                                              • Apr 2004
                                              • 1730
                                              #12
                                              I've also heard that the bears have formed a lobby which is pressing on the Swiss government in order to have the Swiss send them some of their army’s knives.

                                              Bears with can openers and screw drivers can't be a good thing.
                                              A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.

                                              http://community.webshots.com/user/lumberzac

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                                                • starbaby
                                                  Member
                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                  • 126
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by redhawk
                                                  When did you go in to the flowed lands? and from which trailhead?
                                                  Some of our party hiked redfield and cliff. When I arrived, we did gray.

                                                  SB
                                                  If you can dream -- and not make dreams your master,
                                                  If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim,
                                                  If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
                                                  And treat those two impostors just the same...

                                                  Rudyard Kipling

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