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  • ashtonscavette
    • Sep 2004
    • 156

    #1

    what is a perfect hip-pack

    was reading a lost thread ..and was wonder what would be the componets to have a hip-back have in it to beable to live for three days ...see i figure that in the adirondacks i can always walk one direction and i will find a road or somthing i gave that three day limit just to push my luck ...i figure if i always have this i can never get lost just not were i want to be ...so by knowing i have the three day limit i'm never get or with out hope .......so what is it ...what should be in that small pouch on your hip ...?
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  • ashtonscavette
    • Sep 2004
    • 156

    #2
    come on ..what is the smallest item that you think is ideal to stay alive for three days ?
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    • Rik
      H-E-R-O
      • Nov 2004
      • 1000247

      #3
      map and compass for starters.
      Die Free and Live

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      • redhawk
        Senior Resident Curmudgeon
        • Jan 2004
        • 10929

        #4
        Originally posted by ashtonscavette
        come on ..what is the smallest item that you think is ideal to stay alive for three days ?
        Box of waterproof matches
        "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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        • lumberzac
          Beware of the Lumberzac
          • Apr 2004
          • 1730

          #5
          A good sharp knife.
          A man needs to believe in something. I believe I'll go hiking.

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          • redhawk
            Senior Resident Curmudgeon
            • Jan 2004
            • 10929

            #6
            Originally posted by lumberzac
            A good sharp knife.
            A real sharp brain!!
            "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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            • sacco
              no soup for you
              • Apr 2004
              • 1156

              #7
              Originally posted by ashtonscavette
              come on ..what is the smallest item that you think is ideal to stay alive for three days ?
              a compass.

              then spend 2nd and 3rd days at home on the couch.
              Fly Fisher's Anglers Association- a fine drinking club with a fishing problem
              www.GoFlyFish.org

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              • protocoldroid
                always smoothin' it
                • Jun 2004
                • 302

                #8
                i'm with sacco.... stock up on navigational aids, and make it a day or less

                I'd add.... emergency blanket and a water filter... and laminate your map.
                "ya gotta get a better view outside, cause you'll burn right up inside, through the knowledge fools get the mileage, birds eye view, catch all this" -del

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                • ashtonscavette
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 156

                  #9
                  smart A$$ answers...it could happen to you ...all i know is if or when it happens ...it would be more have a first aid kit we all have them and but this one for your life......like tin foil i mean how many use things could i do with that the list would go on ..a trash bag or two a tiny bottle of lighter fluid.. ...we'll have to leave your state of mind if your lost out of it ..i think thats diffrent i figure knowing you have these things would change your state of mind .
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                  • Rik
                    H-E-R-O
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1000247

                    #10
                    My answer wasn't meant to be smart a$$. I guess I'm not sure what you were asking. If I was in the woods and wanted out I would want the map and compass. Sure I could try and walk in one direction for 3 days to a road but maybe there is another road only a days walk in another direction. Matches would be my second choice as well in case I needed to stay put for some reason (out of daylight, injury). Lighter fluid would be very far down on my list and if I was only filling a hip pack it wouldn't make it in there. Compass, Map, matches, knife, food, emergency blanket, in that order. Maybe water treatment tablets but i would drink untreated water if I had to knowing I could get out (using my map and compass) before I would get sick.
                    Die Free and Live

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                    • sacco
                      no soup for you
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 1156

                      #11
                      what rik said.
                      Fly Fisher's Anglers Association- a fine drinking club with a fishing problem
                      www.GoFlyFish.org

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                      • protocoldroid
                        always smoothin' it
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 302

                        #12
                        In all practicality.... When I'm just carrying a hip pack (i have a camel back one, it holds more water than it holds "stuff"), the stuff in it is: Water, Headlamp, tiny first aid kid (including compass/whistle/thermometer -- a $2, .5 ounce doohickey), extra batteries.

                        My thinking is, play it safe and take the things that will help you get out OK, before there's an emergency. I'm big into planning my trips (i just may spend more time planning than I do out and about -- a curse of day dreaming, mostly ), so on 9/10 day trips, I probably have half memorized the lay of the land before stepping foot.

                        If you're got water, and are hydrated the whole time -- you won't become weak from that. If it gets too late and you've got a headlamp, you can make it out without breaking your leg in the hurrying in the dark. I also carry a GPSr and a multitool with me pretty much whenever out of the house... in the backcountry or the front.

                        Didn't mean to be wise either! Although, I can be somewhat of a "wise acre".... maybe more times than not
                        "ya gotta get a better view outside, cause you'll burn right up inside, through the knowledge fools get the mileage, birds eye view, catch all this" -del

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                        • redhawk
                          Senior Resident Curmudgeon
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10929

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ashtonscavette
                          smart A$$ answers...it could happen to you ...all i know is if or when it happens ...it would be more have a first aid kit we all have them and but this one for your life......like tin foil i mean how many use things could i do with that the list would go on ..a trash bag or two a tiny bottle of lighter fluid.. ...we'll have to leave your state of mind if your lost out of it ..i think thats diffrent i figure knowing you have these things would change your state of mind .
                          I don't think there are any "smart-a$$" answers there. look at the question....
                          Originally posted by ashtonscavette
                          come on ..what is the smallest item that you think is ideal to stay alive for three days ?
                          All the answers apply. The question is vague. You are not asking about Navigating out, but staying alive for three days.

                          The Map and Compass will keep you alive because they insure you can find your way out, unless injured.....

                          The knife can be used for many things, shaving a stick to start a fire to keep warm, or a signal fire. It can cut a vine to make rope for a rabbit snare and then gut and skin the rabbit. It can cut kindling and tinder. The blade can reflect the sun to signal, the handle can be used a makeshift hammer to pound stalks into tender edible nourishment, or to crack nuts. It can be used to dig roots, for nutrition or for medicinal purposes. You can cut the fungus off the birch tree and open it up for firestarter. You can tie twine around the hilt and use the knife as a weight for throwing a rope/string/vine over a tree limb.

                          You can use matches to light a fire for warmth or for a signal or to cook a rabbit or squirrel you snared.

                          And you need a sharp mind to figure the ways to utilize what you have in the most efficient way.

                          So there were no "smart a$$' answers.
                          "If future generations are to remember us with gratitude rather than contempt, we must leave them more than the miracles of technology. We must leave them a glimpse of the world as it was in the beginning, not just after we got through with it." Lyndon B. Johnson

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                          • Rik
                            H-E-R-O
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 1000247

                            #14
                            Now for the smart a$$ answer: I would fill my pack with those self cooking hot dogs. ie techno-weenies.
                            Die Free and Live

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                            • Neil
                              Admin

                              • May 2004
                              • 6129

                              #15
                              Dunno what this thread is all about but here's 2 cents...

                              The stuff mentioned above is standard stuff that goes on every day hike anyway. (Not sure about the brain) I carried all that plus a fleece and a rain coat minus the filter in a 10 liter (600 cu in) trail running pack plus a 2 qt. platy to Nippletop (and back on the same day ) The sharp knife was only a swiss army knife and probably isn't all that sharp anymore.
                              The best, the most successful adventurer, is the one having the most fun.

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