A rant about tourism..

[Lute Hawkins]

I think it goes, "It's not wilderness unless there is something out there that can kill you and eat you," and it's by Doug Peacock.

If we go by that standard, downtown Inlet is wilderness, since I once I saw a huge black bear there that could certainly have killed and eaten me if it had really wanted to.

Where you the guy whose wife was shrieking about the bear outside the yellow cottages at Arrowhead park about 3 or 4 years ago???

[Starshadow]

We could always introduce Cannibals into the ADK's, that would take care of the tourist thing and it would be considered real wilderness to.

Then we would NEED to reintroduce the wolf to keep the cannibal population in check. Great strategy.

Or, we could ask them to police the trailhead parking lots, following only out of state plate people into the woods for dining. I have heard that New Jersey people are a bit tough but Canadians are juuuuuusssst right.

[Hobbitling]

yup, Doug Peacock, thats the quote.

[DuctTape]

I once read a quote that said something like..."Its not a real wilderness unless you run the risk of getting eaten by something"

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Do black flies and mosquitoes count?

[Rik]

Do black flies and mosquitoes count?

I just assumed that was what the quote was referring to.

[lumberzac]

Do black flies and mosquitoes count?

Don't forget the deer and horse flies. They've been know to carry off small children.

[madison]

Where you the guy whose wife was shrieking about the bear outside the yellow cottages at Arrowhead park about 3 or 4 years ago???

Nope. The bear I saw was near the Ole' Barn restaurant and it was BIG.

[Hugh]

. And that rising prices are set by everyone as a whole, without collusion.

Well thats not all together true Harvy,and Rock your ancestors might have had a hand in whats happening in the price off property also.Ive lived up here for 40 yrs and back then the Northway was new,and lots of locals put property for sale to cash in on the bonanza that an influx of new people bring,and the one commonality they all shared was puting a way inflated price on thier property hoping that some dumb flatlander would pay it.They found plenty of them,and it just snowballed from there.Locals had a hand in it back then and they have a hand in it now.

[eghaley]

Madison, you bet there are some big black bears around the Ole Barn near Inlet. Back in the late '70s someone shot a bear during hunting season near the dump that weighed in at over 600 pounds. I'm not sure if it was a state record but some say it was.

[campadk]

Most of the income in the Adirondacks is from the prisons. Tourism is a close second. Of course, no one wants tourists to know just how many prisons there are in the park, so nobody realizes how vital they are to the economy.

Didn't realize there were that many prisons in the ADK. We pass 'Camp Gabriel' on 86 all the time... I still say to my wife.. "that looks like a great place to camp!". Originally I did think it was a state park... oops. Pretty fine looking from the outside!

[Rock]

Well thats not all together true Harvy,and Rock your ancestors might have had a hand in whats happening in the price off property also.Ive lived up here for 40 yrs and back then the Northway was new,and lots of locals put property for sale to cash in on the bonanza that an influx of new people bring,and the one commonality they all shared was puting a way inflated price on thier property hoping that some dumb flatlander would pay it.They found plenty of them,and it just snowballed from there.Locals had a hand in it back then and they have a hand in it now.

Very true

Didn't realize there were that many prisons in the ADK. We pass 'Camp Gabriel' on 86 all the time... I still say to my wife.. "that looks like a great place to camp!". Originally I did think it was a state park... oops. Pretty fine looking from the outside!

You would be surprised where you will run into a prison. I was up by Lion MT driving down a road with nothing but woods on it and all of a sudden there is this huge gate with walls beyond thick pine trees. It was pretty freaky. A friend of mine told me it was a new correctional facility.

[Roland]

11 prisons, close to 10mil$$ every two weeks in payroll...

[Rock]

So that’s close to $260 million a year just in those 11 prisons

& that doesn’t include the transportation, heat, electric, food, MD bills, and what ever else it takes to run a prison.

Thats alot of $$

[Roland]

Yeah, costs something like 45K a year ( I read somewhere) per prisonner, its a business, in the US we have more people in prison then Russia, every convict is income to the State, County ,and expense to taxpayer etc. Prison contracting for profit, is a rapidly growing business segment, its a sick world out there

PS: do you have 50k expense for each household member?

[Qtip]

Power lines for metro NY, prisons for metro NY(Most cons are from there), reservoirs for metro NY,wind turbines for metro NY, etc., etc. Screw metro NY! Upstate is getting ruined for downstate. And then to rub salt into the wound, they come up here with their big money and buy up land, sub-divide and sell and ruin what used to be rural areas. You folks in Tupper Lake better do all you can to stop that project or kiss your way of life goodbye. You should see what tourism run amok and city folk did to the Cooperstown area from what it once was.

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