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Old 03-01-2018, 04:57 PM   #41
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Like usuals hunters get a undeserved bad rap. A couple of years ago a hunter shot a moose near Croghan, NY.. He claimed he miss ID it, sounds like BS to me. But his hunting companions, told him he needed to turn himself into the authorities, or they would and also they would kick him out of their hunting club. So he did turn himself in, and the justice system worked. So I believe that there are incidents of moose poaching in NY, but they very rare.
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:06 PM   #42
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A couple of years ago a hunter shot a moose near Croghan, NY.. He claimed he miss ID it, sounds like BS to me. But his hunting companions, told him he needed to turn himself into the authorities, or they would and also they would kick him out of their hunting club. So he did turn himself in, and the justice system worked. So I believe that there are incidents of moose poaching in NY, but they very rare.
Iím thinking that must be the same incident that I linked in post #26...?
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:10 PM   #43
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Around 1990 some guys shot a moose in the Black mt. area on Lake George. They were seen loading the head into one of their trucks at the trailhead. They were caught and convicted.

One or two years ago, a shot moose was found along the Tahawus Rd. No one was caught for that one.
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Old 03-01-2018, 08:37 PM   #44
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One or two years ago, a shot moose was found along the Tahawus Rd. No one was caught for that one.
In 2014...
https://www.adirondackalmanack.com/2...oose-calf.html
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:48 PM   #45
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Ok, almost four years ago. Time flies.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:01 PM   #46
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I hunt with a retired state trooper who is in his mid-70s. In late Nov. 2016, we were putting a deer drive on during a real wet and dreary day. The first thing he spotted was antlers, and he got ready for the buck slowly coming his way. He kept getting glimpses of it here and there but was convinced it was just a big deer and was just waiting for it to come into an opening. Fortunately, when it did, it was close enough for him to see that it wasn't a deer, but a young bull moose. He still says he's glad he didn't get too excited and pull the trigger. Another hunter might have.
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:46 PM   #47
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I'm curious at just what distance a moose can be confused with a deer.
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Old 03-02-2018, 05:55 PM   #48
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I'm curious at just what distance a moose can be confused with a deer.
Yes, I agree, it has to be almost impossible to miss ID. Although in thick cover like most of the NZ, and the fact that a bull moose generally doesnít developed palmatted antlers until age 3. I suppose it could be possible to miss identified a yearling spike bull under certain conditions ?
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:05 AM   #49
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I'm curious at just what distance a moose can be confused with a deer.
It was about 50 yards out before he could tell what it was, mainly because of the cover and low hanging branches from snow. At first he could only see antlers, and they weren't palmated, as it was a young bull. Once he started seeing the body he realized how dark it was. We don't see a lot of moose here. Every 10-12 years maybe, so it was surprising.
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Old 03-06-2018, 10:20 PM   #50
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I disagree with the assumption that it would be easier to poach(and keep quiet) moose on private property(hunting/recreation leases). we have an estimated 15(maybe more) moose in/on and around our club land. If someone were to poach a moose on our land it would be nearly impossible to keep quiet, before 100 members would know the scuttle of the poaching and said member would be ousted immediately. I'm not saying this sort of thing doesn't happen on private/public State land, but in my opinion with very little frequency. Our members seem to spot twin calves, single calves, ,cows and bulls of all ages every year now. The DEC has been claiming we have a moose pop. of 800 for several years now.....now they claim that the ADk.'s have only 400(what about the rest of the State?) Why the about face...I spoke to a State biologist 3 winters ago , his crew was collaring moose this particular day(gathering just outside our club gate) and he told me "there may be a moose season closer than what you would think", really and I ask again, why the about face, what has changed?? Hmmm very puzzling.
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Old 03-07-2018, 08:30 AM   #51
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bob, I agree, if someone poached a moose on the 250,000+- acres that we manage it would be tough to not be discovered by our lessee’s, or foresters. You don’t just shoot a moose and drag it to your truck like a deer.

How many moose on Tug Hill, and other areas outside of the blue line ?
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Old 03-07-2018, 04:12 PM   #52
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How many moose on Tug Hill, and other areas outside of the blue line ?
I'd like to know the answer to that as well.

The DEC's earlier Moose estimate was for the state overall. This new estimate seems to be limited to the ADK's. The areas I've seen in the Northern Zone outside of the blue line, to include Tug Hill, look like decent Moose habitat.
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