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Old 10-08-2014, 03:38 PM   #1
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So i guess i forgot how to fish?

Been on a real bad dry spell all fall.... Prob have 10 days out, have caught zero trout. Seen lots. Sippin, jumpin', swimmin around... Ponds, rivers... Trollin, nymphin, heck, i've even thrown some worms lately.. Today was the worst, had a 16-18" brown literally jump onto the riverbank after chasin a nymph on a retrieve, he flopped around for a sec n fell back in.... Crazy fish mighta even laughed at me. Luckily the 15th is comin soon and i can quit trout n worry about ll's.
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Old 10-08-2014, 03:50 PM   #2
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Rusty, I feel your pain. It's been a slow, slow Autumn. I say we set up a Forum fund for Rotenone and bleach and go after those pesky trout once and for all.

Of course then there would be no reason for the fly swap and endless planning and high expectations for Spring, when the brookies will surely let us down once again.

And so it goes...
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Whew so it is not just me. It hasn't been as bad for me as Rusty but certainly not setting the world fire. I have not gotten out on stillwater though that was my goal. Last week up here guys were getting skunked unless you had lead core. The trout were still 30-40 ft. down! Caught a few a couple weeks ago from a small stream and then Saturday I caught a 5lbs. Lake O brown from a little trib between Oswego and Watertown but that was my only fish all day.

Which BTW I have to add that it was caught on a fly swap fly. I recieved two of these flies. They're Wooly Buggers about a #8 hook, gold bead, peacock herl body ribbed with pearl crystal flash and black marabou with crystal flash. It was ribbed with really short hackle and was heavily weighted. It swam hook up, bounced bottom but never snagged nor did the marabou foul, something I have trouble with and why generally I never fish WB's. Held up real good, looks like it could catch a bunch more if I can get them to bite.
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Old 10-08-2014, 05:19 PM   #4
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Whew so it is not just me. It hasn't been as bad for me as Rusty but certainly not setting the world fire. I have not gotten out on stillwater though that was my goal. Last week up here guys were getting skunked unless you had lead core. The trout were still 30-40 ft. down! Caught a few a couple weeks ago from a small stream and then Saturday I caught a 5lbs. Lake O brown from a little trib between Oswego and Watertown but that was my only fish all day.

Which BTW I have to add that it was caught on a fly swap fly. I recieved two of these flies. They're Wooly Buggers about a #8 hook, gold bead, peacock herl body ribbed with pearl crystal flash and black marabou with crystal flash. It was ribbed with really short hackle and was heavily weighted. It swam hook up, bounced bottom but never snagged nor did the marabou foul, something I have trouble with and why generally I never fish WB's. Held up real good, looks like it could catch a bunch more if I can get them to bite.
that is what I found yesterday. The brookies were 27' down and unreachable.

that fly was tied by Wildbrookies. His woolly bigger found a nice brown for me earlier this summer.
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Old 10-08-2014, 08:17 PM   #5
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Fly Swap Fly

Hey,
No fish here, but going out soon. When is Fly Swap?
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Old 10-08-2014, 08:22 PM   #6
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No fish here, but going out soon. When is Fly Swap?
It's a little bit early to get your knickers in a twist about the fly swap. Let's start talking about that sometime in January or so...
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soooo relieved with this post to know its not just me.
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Old 10-09-2014, 08:16 PM   #8
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Gman, glad to hear you had some success with my Peacock Wonder!! Its my "go to" fly when not much else is working ,and just today I used it in a deep pool and caught a few decent rainbows ,but stripping it in correctly was the trick as I was lucky enough to actually watch a plump 16" rainbow chase the bugger and grab it!! Really cool!! But the big fish of the day was caught on my other fly,The Buffy Special! Photos of todays fish to soon reach the board tonite!! Thanks again for mention my bugger!

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Old 10-13-2014, 12:17 PM   #9
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I spent two days on a pond on the last weekend in September and caught 2 ok fish in the first 20 minutes. After that I never got a bite. This past weekend on another pond; a couple of bites- thats it.

I too, thought it was just me; especially after seeing VT and Glen's photos.
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I spent two days on a pond on the last weekend in September and caught 2 ok fish in the first 20 minutes. After that I never got a bite. This past weekend on another pond; a couple of bites- thats it.

I too, thought it was just me; especially after seeing VT and Glen's photos.
There are times both during Spring and Autumn turnover when our brookies develop a case of Adirondack Lockjaw but it's a bit early for that. My only hypothesis is that the warm water temperatures are keeping them deep.
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There are times both during Spring and Autumn turnover when our brookies develop a case of Adirondack Lockjaw but it's a bit early for that. My only hypothesis is that the warm water temperatures are keeping them deep.
You know what they say about hypotheses.
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Old 10-13-2014, 06:13 PM   #12
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I have a theory. It likely has more bearing on stream trout than stillwaters.
In fall the profusion of leaf litter into the rivers alters the PH considerably making it more acidic. That may put the trout off.

As far as brookies in fall. I think most species of fish have a post spawn funk...they're probably having a fish's version of a cigarette.
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Old 10-13-2014, 08:06 PM   #13
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Made it official, quit trout season, onto ll's, got into 2 on fri but couldnt get either to the net. The first i was so suprised that a fish wanted anything to do with me that i missed the hookset, the second toyed w me for about 30 secs before he tore off into the current, had a big jump and said seeya later.. Oh well, at least i got to remeber what havin a fish on felt like, hopefully i'll get one to net soon!
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:24 AM   #14
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There are times both during Spring and Autumn turnover when our brookies develop a case of Adirondack Lockjaw but it's a bit early for that. My only hypothesis is that the warm water temperatures are keeping them deep.

In the first case, when I I last caught a fish, the surface was 61' when I began; but warmed rapidly under clear skies and temperatures in the upper 70's. The water at the end of the day was reading 67.
This past weekend though,the water was 50' at the pond I was on....




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Old 10-14-2014, 09:40 AM   #15
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Gman: I have been wondering about the impact of leaves adding tannin to the water in the fall also. Now you have me thinking even more about it. This past week I was trolling for lake trout (which were also still deep despite the 54 degree surface temp) when I caught a 26" rainbow. Totally caught me by surprise, but a nice one. Lakers weren't cooperative.
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Old 10-22-2014, 04:34 PM   #16
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So i guess i forgot how to fish?

There we go. I'm all remembered!!! ImageUploadedByTapatalk1414010053.385074.jpg
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Old 10-22-2014, 05:58 PM   #17
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What a beautiful salmon Rusty!!
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Wow!!! My turn to be jealous. What a beautiful fish and what a kype!

Any steelhead showing up on your side? Ross caught this one on Saturday, a monster for LC.
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Old 10-22-2014, 07:38 PM   #19
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Jeez!! Way to go Ross!! Looks a L.Ontario metalhead! Good warmup til you guys get out to your annual trip on the SalmonR!. How long and what was the weight or guesstimate of it?? Beautiful fish! This fish porn has me leaning towards a trip to give me my fix...
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Old 10-22-2014, 07:52 PM   #20
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Wow, thats a pretty chromer! Haven't seen one yet this year on this side.
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