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New camper- primitive camping advice?
Me and 2 friends are planning to go primitive camping sometime in late april or early march.
we want primitive camping outside of a campsite. Is that possible in the ADK? Where should I look? I hear that Moose river plains is a good spot. are there any other good places to camp at that time? we also want to do a little hiking and fishing if possible. we want to stay out there for 3 nights MAYBE 4. we have a car. any advice? places to camp? trails to walk? that sort of stuff? thanks Last edited by redxmoonx; 01-26-2016 at 10:17 AM.. |
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also camping near water would be nice. somewhere where there isnt too much traffic and no loud motorboats would be nice.
and hows the weather around april and march? i read that it normally stays above 30? |
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I would recommend buying some of the Discover the Adirondacks series of guidebooks.
Most waters are still frozen in April, and the Mosse River Plains generally have the roads closed until after mud season, mid May most years... As far as advice, start easy and become familiar with the regulations. Last edited by stripperguy; 01-26-2016 at 09:32 PM.. |
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i been spending a lot of time reading regulations and learning them. is there another part where its good to camp during that time? |
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You can camp almost everywhere in the wildernesses, provided you're 150' from water, trails, etc. Leave No Trace is key, and guard your food. Note that the "campsites" are just established areas that often have a privy, they're not KOAs. Most camping is essentially "primitive".
Depending on the area, it can be cold any time of year, I think the only time I didn't bring a fleece jacket was July4 weekend. The higher mountains can get snow any time of year. Plan Ahead And Prepare. |
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Please get familiar with a few important information web pages. The NYSDEC site has tons of official useful information, but the multiple pages can be confusing to navigate at first.
Start here for primitive camping information, along with the internal links.... http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/41282.html Then understand the backcountry camping rules and guidelines from the larger set of regulations given here: http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/7872.html Many of the DEC regulations are based on Leave No Trace Principles. Please heed them. https://lnt.org/learn/7-principles Note that you are allowed to set up camp in the same spot for 3 nights only, unless you have a permit issued by a Ranger for a longer stay. DEC Rangers are there to help you. After you select an area you think you would like to visit, call the ranger who covers that area for tips and the latest information on that location. Region 6 is the western third of the Adiondacks http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/679.html Region 5 covers the eastern side. http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/677.html As Stripperguy mentioned, forget about planning to get into the Moose River Plains until mid-May at the earliest. The road is gated and locked until after mud season. And I also highly recommend getting one or more editions of the Discover the Adirondacks series of guidebooks. http://www.hiketheadirondacks.com/pa...ondacks_Series
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No motorboats till ice out. That is toward May. If you hike in April, snowshoes may be required. Average high in Lake Placid in March 40, low 16 with 19 inches of snow. In March you may be near water but getting to it is another story. In April don't even think of going on the ice. |
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Yeah, late March is typically still winter in the Adirondacks.
Where are you located? There are other destinations that might better serve you that earlier in the season. |
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im in NYC. i just thought the ADKs would be nice. but if there is another place anywhere as nice where we could go i be open to that.
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apart from the moose river plains. is there another place you would recommend? |
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I suggest going south. To Atsion Campground in the Pine Barrens. Its a primitive campground. There is quite a bit of hiking and canoeing year round there. Best of all its close to you and worth investigating even if that is not what you want right now. Another might be the Catskills. I know very little about that area. NYC has had more snow than the Adirondacks I think! But it goes away..The stuff in the mountains hangs on. |
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If you're willing to do backpacking style camping, where you carry all of your gear on your back, Harriman State Park could be a good option. There are plenty of backcountry shelters there than you can camp in or pitch a tent at. The park is almost always snow-free by the end of March.
Harriman can be popular because it is so close to the city, but that early in the season it shouldn't be too busy. |
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I'll second the Harriman recommendation as a good tune up to the Adirondacks. Early to mid-spring shouldn't be that crowded. Then head to the Adirondacks in mid-June. It's an unwritten rule that all first time Adirondack primitive campers go this time of the year.
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its either this or Slide Mountain |
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