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Old 12-05-2019, 11:21 AM   #21
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You can't legally hunt with buckshot in NY either. And it would be a rare hunter that employs a shotgun in Northern Zone where rifles are legal.
My guess, Johnny was merely using the word 'buckshot' rather than 'birdshot' and there are plenty of birdshot shot signs and plenty of hunters use that for small game.
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Old 12-06-2019, 11:54 AM   #22
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Juts pointing out an inaccuracy in what could be seen as an inflammatory statement. And, yes, signs do get shot with birdshot, usually once, and then all hunters get tarred for years afterward. Kind of like deciding that all backpackers need an education course because you find two TP flowers along a trail.
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Old 12-06-2019, 02:57 PM   #23
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Juts pointing out an inaccuracy in what could be seen as an inflammatory statement. And, yes, signs do get shot with birdshot, usually once, and then all hunters get tarred for years afterward. Kind of like deciding that all backpackers need an education course because you find two TP flowers along a trail.
Sorry, wasn't meant to be inflammatory. Basically I was saying stupid people do stupid things.
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Old 12-09-2019, 10:16 AM   #24
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Since nobody’s been able to find out if this story is true.
Could Adkgirl’s accusation be a false flag to stir up controversy?
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Old 12-09-2019, 11:47 AM   #25
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Since nobody’s been able to find out if this story is true.
Could Adkgirl’s accusation be a false flag to stir up controversy?
I think we're waiting for the next ranger report to come out , maybe adkman12986 can say .

To say anything about Adkgirl's motive would be another conclusion drawn from speculation , I would sooner give her the benefit of the doubt and say she loves wildlife and was upset .
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Old 12-09-2019, 03:42 PM   #26
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A few years back a moose was shot along rt 28 in Forestport. It was shot 9 times by a State Trooper with his 9mm, trying to stop the suffering after being struck by a car. The moose refused to die. The trooper finally went next door and got a neighbor with a 30-06 to dispatch it. So I will wait for the facts to come out before passing judgment.
That's one problem with carrying a 9mm. Probably a Glock. Carry the 357 which can shoot .38 special too. Use the Glock as a backup with a shin holster. Of course maybe the officer was a poor shot.
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Old 12-09-2019, 04:50 PM   #27
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Since nobody’s been able to find out if this story is true.
Could Adkgirl’s accusation be a false flag to stir up controversy?

A few days ago I saw a paragraph in the Adirondack Enterprise about this.

It said there was a moose shot in Vermontville and the investigation was ongoing.
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:27 PM   #28
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If you google Adk Daily Enterprise the article mentions a moose found on the side of road on Oct 31. There is an on going NYSDEC investigation are this time.
Thank you Bluequill for the information.
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:35 AM   #29
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I truly hope they get the max. Makes every hunter look bad.

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Old 12-11-2019, 10:04 AM   #30
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Someone makes an account and one post with no citation to name people allegedly committing a crime? Mods should delete the post unless at least a citation can be tied to a charge.
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Old 12-11-2019, 10:09 AM   #31
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Someone makes an account and one post with no citation to name people allegedly committing a crime? Mods should delete the post unless at least a citation can be tied to a charge.
The posts with names have been deleted...thanks for letting us know.
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Old 12-11-2019, 10:23 AM   #32
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Thanks for being so responsive!

And to be clear, I know nothing about the people named nor the club, so no agenda other than an even application of justice.

I look forward to reading more about this in a Ranger report or in the local press.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #33
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Juts pointing out an inaccuracy in what could be seen as an inflammatory statement. And, yes, signs do get shot with birdshot, usually once, and then all hunters get tarred for years afterward. Kind of like deciding that all backpackers need an education course because you find two TP flowers along a trail.
All hikers should pass a course and get a pin to wear. Not that many already do not know how to be prepared for the ADKs but some go in with just alcohol and tennis shoes and end up in trouble. You may not be in that category but S&R has found many that were.

This has been discussed at length here before. Making light of a potential life or death situation does not help those who do not know any better.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:54 PM   #34
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Someone makes an account and one post with no citation to name people allegedly committing a crime? Mods should delete the post unless at least a citation can be tied to a charge.
I understand your point, but FOIL the DEC. See below release from DEC (primary source)

Arrest Made in Adirondack Moose Killing Case – Franklin County

On Dec. 4, ECOs charged Zachary Vaughn, 26, of Saranac, Clinton County, with numerous counts related to the killing of a moose in the town of Franklin, Franklin County, following a month-long DEC investigation. Vaughn was charged with four misdemeanors: taking of a moose; possessing a loaded firearm in a vehicle; use of an artificial light in a vehicle while in possession of firearm; and hunting deer with the aid of an artificial light. He also was charged with three additional violations. Vaughn is scheduled to appear before the Town of Franklin Criminal Court on Dec.19, and faces a maximum penalty of $9,725 in fines and up to one year imprisonment.
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:58 PM   #35
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Contact PressOffice@dec.ny.gov if you still do not believe
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Old 12-11-2019, 03:08 PM   #36
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Can you just provide a link to the text that you quote? No FOIA needed, no need to believe or contact a press office.
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Old 12-11-2019, 03:22 PM   #37
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Never mind, I found it:

https://www.dec.ny.gov/press/118927.html

Today's (12/11/19) release, bottom of page.
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Old 12-11-2019, 05:26 PM   #38
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Thank you webby459 and anatinae .
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Old 12-11-2019, 07:50 PM   #39
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Thank you webby459 and anatinae .
Thank you both for the clarification and update.
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Old 12-12-2019, 07:18 AM   #40
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Adirondack Almanack has a story about it. Glad they got the guy, and hope they throw the book at him, including jail time.
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