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Old 01-16-2013, 09:29 AM   #1
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Tube fed 22

Since the other thread got locked before the OP received a correct answer ....

Your tube fed semi-auto 22 is NOT affected by this new law. I also can't find anything about reducing the capacity of the magazine in a tube fed 22..
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Correct 1894, the tube feds are not effected because they are not removable

We are starting to look for property in NH..
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22 with a removable 7 shot will be okay?
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:24 AM   #4
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22 with a removable 7 shot will be okay?
Any caliber with a 10 round mag. loaded with only 7 is ok. I think.Consult your attorney.
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How did they dertermine that 7 was okay?
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Thanks for clearing that up.


Why was that thread locked? I thought it was a valid question about hunting/ trapping.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:36 AM   #7
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After reading parts of the new law my understanding is that tubular magazine rifles will continue to be legal as long as you don't put more than 7 rounds in the magazine.


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Consult your attorney.
It's a sad day for America when we need an attorney to interpret how many rounds may or may not be legal in a .22 rifle.
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I quote from the press release " Existing ten round magazines can be grandfathered in, but may only be loaded with 7 rounds."

A tube fed .22 holding 18 is not a ten round magazine.

So you do need a attorney, and how to buy the new 7 round they don't make?
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How many Ruger 10/22's are out there in NY? Everybody who owns one is only going to load 7 rounds now? Yeah. OK.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:08 AM   #10
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All laws are written so you really need lawyers to be sure you understand them! It would be nice if they at least indented the paragraphs so you could easily tell which section were subsections without having to re-read it multiple times!

From from brief skimming (excerpts below) it looks like its fine and would not be considered an assault rifle (if it were a semi-auto shotgun it would be considered assault):
- ".....Going forward, individuals will only be able to obtain magazines that can
contain up to seven rounds. Those who currently possess magazines
that can contain more than seven rounds will only be permitted to
maintain up to seven rounds in such magazines."
- "(A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE
MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
- "(G) PROVIDED, HOWEVER, THAT SUCH TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE:

(II) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT CANNOT ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE
THAT HOLDS MORE THAN FIVE ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;
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I believe the exemption specifically for tube fed 22s is here :

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S 38. Subdivision 23 of section 265.00 of the penal law, as added by
chapter 189 of the laws of 2000, is amended to read as follows:

23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt,
drum, feed strip, or similar device, [manufactured after September thir-
teenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four,] that (A) has a capacity of, or
that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten
rounds of ammunition, OR (B) CONTAINS MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNI
TION, OR (C) IS OBTAINED AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE
LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION AND HAS A
CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT,
MORE THAN SEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION; provided, however, that such term
does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and
capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition
OR A
FEEDING DEVICE THAT IS A CURIO OR RELIC
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Let me jump in....

Sorry for locking the other thread prematurely - as many know, gun threads in the past have turned contentious quickly. This one will remain open provided it remains on topic, and not political...any posts or comments that are deemed such will be removed.

I don't think there will be an issue, but it's up to everyone here to help...OK?

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I believe the exemption specifically for tube fed 22s is here :
Phil,
Could you add the link to the penal quotes you are making. Thanks.
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I used the link from the locked thread. It's a little past 1/2 way down.
My apologies for not adding the link


http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013
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Sorry for locking the other thread prematurely - as many know, gun threads in the past have turned contentious quickly. This one will remain open provided it remains on topic, and not political...any posts or comments that are deemed such will be removed.

I don't think there will be an issue, but it's up to everyone here to help...OK?

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How many Ruger 10/22's are out there in NY? Everybody who owns one is only going to load 7 rounds now? Yeah. OK.
10/22's have a removable magazine, not tubular. And most come with a 5 round magazine, I believe. At least mine did before I switched to the much more fun 20 and 30 round mags.
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Rugers website still shows a capacity of 10 rounds . I do see 5 round magazines for sale as well .

http://www.ruger.com/products/1022/index.html
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Rugers website still shows a capacity of 10 rounds . I do see 5 round magazines for sale as well .

http://www.ruger.com/products/1022/index.html
On their website? I can't find it.
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How did they dertermine that 7 was okay?
The consensus was that if you couldn't hit your target with 7 shots, 3 more wouldn't make any difference!!

Common sense says that they had to come up with SOME number. I would guess that they figured that seven was somewhere in the middle of what each extreme wanted. They could have chosen 3 or 5 if they wanted.
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I quote from the press release " Existing ten round magazines can be grandfathered in, but may only be loaded with 7 rounds."

A tube fed .22 holding 18 is not a ten round magazine.

So you do need a attorney, and how to buy the new 7 round they don't make?
I'm sure one will be quickly forth coming since there will be a market for it.
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