Adirondack Forum

Adirondack Forum (http://www.adkforum.com/index.php)
-   Paddling in the Adirondacks (http://www.adkforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=62)
-   -   Ice In??? (http://www.adkforum.com/showthread.php?t=27291)

WinterWarlock 09-11-2019 03:04 PM

Ice In???
 
I'm fairly new, and excited, to paddling up north, and I know in the spring we always see posts about ice-out, and when we start putting boats in the water again. Well, what I want to ask is the opposite...when do folks typically put their boats away for the winter? I'll be moving soon to inside the Blue Line, but not until November 1st, and think I'll probably be putting the boats away upon moving, but maybe not...thanks for your insights.

montcalm 09-11-2019 03:10 PM

Congrats on the move. I'm very jealous!

Some people paddle right up until the water literally does have ice on it. Def late Nov/early Dec. Lots of people paddling in Nov for big game season. The thing you really have to be aware of is, like in spring, how cold the water is. It gets to be unpleasant to get in and out of a canoe without waders/boots in October. After that it gets dangerous.

Not sure what you're paddling but one thing to consider even when flatwater paddling in cold temps is a wet suit, or partial. I typically just wear the socks/waders and hope I don't go in. This is the minimum IME to get in and out, unless you are using a dock...

If you get a chance I def recommend going to some of the popular areas at that time... Lows, Lila, SRCA... they tend to be dead except for hunters. The biggest problem in getting out in a boat seems to be the weather. Lots of cold rain in Nov usually.

WinterWarlock 09-11-2019 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montcalm (Post 277902)
Congrats on the move. I'm very jealous!

Thanks - we're very excited to be moving from Rochester to Schroon Lake...can't wait to be up there!

Quote:

Originally Posted by montcalm (Post 277902)
Not sure what you're paddling but one thing to consider even when flatwater paddling in cold temps is a wet suit, or partial. I typically just wear the socks/waders and hope I don't go in. This is the minimum IME to get in and out, unless you are using a dock...

I have a 15' Hornbeck New Trick...I don't have a dry suit (yet?) but I do have a wetsuit, assuming it still fits! I do have neoprene boots, so at the absolute least that allows me to get in and out without freezing, but it doesn't solve the issue with the possibility of going over.

DuctTape 09-11-2019 07:36 PM

A few years ago I was paddling Bear Lake in the Black River WF in December. Ice was just coming in.

Buckladd 09-11-2019 09:16 PM

I've paddled every month of the year. That said, Schroon Lake and surrounding ponds are some of the first to ice over. You can follow the progress here:
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishin...php?board=16.0

WinterWarlock 09-11-2019 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckladd (Post 277914)
I've paddled every month of the year. That said, Schroon Lake and surrounding ponds are some of the first to ice over. You can follow the progress here:
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishin...php?board=16.0

Great link...thanks. I understand Schroon Lake is a pretty good ice fishing spot...guess Ill have to try my hand at it.

Justin 09-11-2019 10:55 PM

A couple buddies & I usually do a Crane trip in Nov. Even snuck in a warm Cedar River Flow trip the week before Xmas a couple years ago.

richard1726 09-12-2019 10:51 AM

During the First few weeks of November first ice Formation can be predicted by observing air temperatures. Day trip ice will never be much of a problem, ice free in morning ice free day.
With Over night canoe camping I watch for temps below 10F with below freezing day time temps. Several years ago on a two night canoe camping adventure, temps dipped below 5F on the Oswegachie. I ended up poling my way out generally on top of the ice with my 11 foot metal spiked pole and 17 foot canoe. It would have been more difficult with two people, the canoe would have been heavy enough to break through the ice. With my pole I slid fairly easily on top of the ice. Travel light, watch the temps, and have a lightweight spiked pole. I would have gotten no-where in a kayak.

JohnnyVirgil 09-12-2019 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard1726 (Post 277923)
During the First few weeks of November first ice Formation can be predicted by observing air temperatures. Day trip ice will never be much of a problem, ice free in morning ice free day.
With Over night canoe camping I watch for temps below 10F with below freezing day time temps. Several years ago on a two night canoe camping adventure, temps dipped below 5F on the Oswegachie. I ended up poling my way out generally on top of the ice with my 11 foot metal spiked pole and 17 foot canoe. It would have been more difficult with two people, the canoe would have been heavy enough to break through the ice. With my pole I slid fairly easily on top of the ice. Travel light, watch the temps, and have a lightweight spiked pole. I would have gotten no-where in a kayak.

God, I can just imagine what that must have sounded like. :) I hope you didn't have a fancy canoe!

Buckladd 09-12-2019 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinterWarlock (Post 277916)
Great link...thanks. I understand Schroon Lake is a pretty good ice fishing spot...guess Ill have to try my hand at it.

Very good, and the tournament the first weekend in March is a hoot! If you like to ice fish, you'll be in a good area.

As for early ice stories, we often use a boat in one of our hunting areas to get deer out, when possible. Last year we dragged a small buck down the ice in early December. Some years we're breaking ice in Mid-November with the oars, or have to bag it all together and go around. Elevation, 1600 -ft.

stripperguy 09-13-2019 12:57 AM

My gang did a trip mid October to the Essex chain lakes
We had to wait until 10:00 AM for the ice to be breakable

Did a day trip to Wolf Pond with a buddy the day after Thanksgiving. It was abnormally warm for a few days.
Going upstream there was skim ice that crinkled and cracked behind us as our waves spread out behind us. Very cool, I can still hear the soft tinkle tinkle tinkles.
Wolf Pond, however, was walkable!!

suescanal 09-15-2019 01:14 AM

Cellophane ice became thicker one November on the St Regis River. I felt like Charlie Chaplin maintaining his balance-a little creepy in our Grumman. Ice formed a necklace around the shore.

ALGonquin Bob 10-31-2019 09:04 PM

Adirondack lakes will begin to ice up a week or 2 after you move there (mid-November). I did a couple ice-in trips on Middle Saranac some years ago - the first trip required some ice-breaking to get in, but it warmed a bit over the weekend. The second trip was opposite, and I had to hike out to the Ampersand trail head instead of paddling up South Creek because of ice. Good times.

Sinite 11-09-2019 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montcalm (Post 277902)
Congrats on the move. I'm very jealous!

Some people paddle right up until the water literally does have ice on it. Def late Nov/early Dec. Lots of people paddling in Nov for big game season. The thing you really have to be aware of is, like in spring, how cold the water is. It gets to be unpleasant to get in and out of a canoe without waders/boots in October. After that it gets dangerous.

Not sure what you're paddling but one thing to consider even when flatwater paddling in cold temps is a wet suit, or partial. I typically just wear the socks/waders and hope I don't go in. This is the minimum IME to get in and out, unless you are using a dock...

If you get a chance I def recommend going to some of the popular areas at that time... Lows, Lila, SRCA... they tend to be dead except for hunters. The biggest problem in getting out in a boat seems to be the weather. Lots of cold rain in Nov usually.

Just wondering, Have you considered how it would be if you fell in with waders? I am thinking if you are in water over your head that the waders will fill with water and weigh you down?


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:06 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.